Labour,Manifesto, Hurry Up I want a good laugh.

[Rocthedog]

Labour meet today to discuss their Manifesto, Knock your socks off says Enemy Corbyn. Cannot wait. Promise, Promise, Promise, A great deal of borrowing. Free Internet, Loads and loads more money going to be spread around. Their whole fucking existence and their Huge promises that will not be kept at all. Is fucking laughable. Hurry on their manifesto I want a good laugh. Bankruptcy faces the UK under this fucking lot. Jeeze.

[Cannydc]

The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.

Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.

Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.

Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html

[Guest]

Labour meet today to discuss their Manifesto, Knock your socks off says Enemy Corbyn. Cannot wait. Promise, Promise, Promise, A great deal of borrowing. Free Internet, Loads and loads more money going to be spread around. Their whole fucking existence and their Huge promises that will not be kept at all. Is fucking laughable. Hurry on their manifesto I want a good laugh. Bankruptcy faces the UK under this fucking lot. Jeeze.

You're a cap doffing Brexit party muppet aren't you! They don't even produce a manifesto because they aren't a party and aren't going to get any seats you tool!

[Rocthedog]

The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.

Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.

Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed. Costed correctly no way
,
Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html

I'm waiting for theirs as well, I suspect there will be promises in theirs. But Labour is fucking ridiculous with their promises which cannot possibly be kept.

[LordRaven]

The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.

Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.

Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.

Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html

Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?

Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.

I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.

It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.

Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.

[Rolluplostinspace]

The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.

Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.

Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.

Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html

Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?

Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.

I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.

It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.

Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.

The nationalised utilities on the continent are doing so well they even make money out of our privatised ones.

[LordRaven]

The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.

Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.

Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.

Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html

Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?

Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.

I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.

It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.

Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.

The nationalised utilities on the continent are doing so well they even make money out of our privatised ones.

Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"

[Rolluplostinspace]

Privatisation is wonderful in the eyes of Tories like Raven ... yes I know you won't be voting for them this time but you're true home is with the Tories so you'll be back there sometime soon ......
The wonders of privatisation and there's more to be added to this to make a list ....
GP practice taken over by Virgin Care goes from outstanding to inadequate in under two years
https://inews.co.uk/news/health/virgin- ... ate-510936

[Rolluplostinspace]

The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.

Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.

Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.

Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html

Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?

Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.

I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.

It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.

Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.

The nationalised utilities on the continent are doing so well they even make money out of our privatised ones.

Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"

Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.

[McAz]

Since they are owned by the people for the people to be used according to their need nationalized industries should not make profit. To do so profits from those who need to subsidize those who don't.

Socialism is not capitalism. Simple.

[Fletch]

Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"

Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.

Raven, and right wing people like him, don't get the concept of a public service. They think everything and someone at least should be making money out of necessities. Other names for that are cartels, monopolies or mafia behaviour.

[McAz]

Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"

Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.

Raven, and right wing people like him, don't get the concept of a public service. They think everything and someone at least should be making money out of necessities. Other names for that are cartels, monopolies or mafia behaviour.

Even when they served in a non-profit making collective enterprise.

[Fletch]

Labour meet today to discuss their Manifesto, Knock your socks off says Enemy Corbyn. Cannot wait. Promise, Promise, Promise, A great deal of borrowing. Free Internet, Loads and loads more money going to be spread around. Their whole fucking existence and their Huge promises that will not be kept at all. Is fucking laughable. Hurry on their manifesto I want a good laugh. Bankruptcy faces the UK under this fucking lot. Jeeze.

In an economy based on a usurious debt based system of money from private banks, how can a money supply exist without borrowing?

[LordRaven]

I see that my question about nationalisation has lead to a lot of hot air and bluster but with not one correct answer --and that is because nationalisation failed at huge cost to the tax payer.

To coin SD "FACT!"

Such a shame, it is a wonderful concept but sadly some people will take the piss when they feel their employer (government) has bottomless pockets.

As I said, and which has been ignored, it might be the case that the workforce today would recognise a need for the government to run nationalised industries in profit --and not at a cost to the tax payer --and unless nationalisation takes place we won't know.

So for those of you attacked me for nothing, calling me a tory etc --please fucking grow up and learn to read! Idiots!

My thoughts on nationalisation are as I said (many times you rampant commie cunts - just showing you what unwarranted remarks are ) because it is a nice idea, but it requires education for all involved (lessons from a poor history on the matter in Britain) and the need for all to understand that the tax payer require a return on investment .

As for the comments that they can be run as costs, you clearly don't understand that all businesses have to evolve and need to make profits for R&D and continual modernisation to stay relevant and competitive.

p.s. Given your comments it would seem not one of you is a Captain of Industry. You all seem to think it okay to run nationalised industries at a cost. And that = Failure.

[Fletch]

Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"

Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.

Raven, and right wing people like him, don't get the concept of a public service. They think everything and someone at least should be making money out of necessities. Other names for that are cartels, monopolies or mafia behaviour.

Even when they served in a non-profit making collective enterprise.

It must have been, and is, crap according to raven's metrics.