A tale of two brains.

A tale of two brains.

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:29 am

An expert in neuroscience has said that President Joe Biden is showing signs of memory loss associated with age.

But in bad news for the Trump campaign Dr John Garten has identified signs of advancing Alzheimer's in Donald Trump.

To a lay person like me there's little difference between memory loss and dementia but Garten, an acknowledged expert in the field from John Hopkins universtity, explains that while Biden might mix up words Trump is displaying "Phonemic paraphasias" —the substitution of non-words for words that sound similar. That's something not normally seen until a patient enters the moderate to severe stages of Alzheimer’s.

An observation augmented by that fact that while Trump is also mixing up people, and generations, in a way that Joe Biden, currently, is not.

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-joh ... dementing/

In something of a backhanded compliment to Trump Garten explained further

There is also a person's baseline. This is an essential tool for evaluating a person's mental decline. If you look at Trump's interviews and speeches from the 1980s for example, he may have always been a bit of a jerk, but he was articulate and polished. Now if you look at Trump there is great deterioration. By comparison, Biden has never been the most articulate person; he always had a stutter. He always made gaffes.


https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-joh ... dementing/
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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Holly » Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:51 am

Cactus Jack wrote:An expert in neuroscience has said that President Joe Biden is showing signs of memory loss associated with age.

But in bad news for the Trump campaign Dr John Garten has identified signs of advancing Alzheimer's in Donald Trump.

To a lay person like me there's little difference between memory loss and dementia but Garten, an acknowledged expert in the field from John Hopkins universtity, explains that while Biden might mix up words Trump is displaying "Phonemic paraphasias" —the substitution of non-words for words that sound similar. That's something not normally seen until a patient enters the moderate to severe stages of Alzheimer’s.

An observation augmented by that fact that while Trump is also mixing up people, and generations, in a way that Joe Biden, currently, is not.

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-joh ... dementing/

In something of a backhanded compliment to Trump Garten explained further

There is also a person's baseline. This is an essential tool for evaluating a person's mental decline. If you look at Trump's interviews and speeches from the 1980s for example, he may have always been a bit of a jerk, but he was articulate and polished. Now if you look at Trump there is great deterioration. By comparison, Biden has never been the most articulate person; he always had a stutter. He always made gaffes.


https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-joh ... dementing/


you really must live on another planet :pmsl:
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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Guest » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:00 am

Cactus Jack wrote:In something of a backhanded compliment to Trump Garten explained further

There is also a person's baseline. This is an essential tool for evaluating a person's mental decline. If you look at Trump's interviews and speeches from the 1980s for example, he may have always been a bit of a jerk, but he was articulate and polished. Now if you look at Trump there is great deterioration. By comparison, Biden has never been the most articulate person; he always had a stutter. He always made gaffes.



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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:14 am

Do you have any clinical basis on which to challange Dr Garten's expertise?
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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Holly » Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:40 am

In the interest of fairness, lets have a look at this man also.
Any better? :ooer:

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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Justanotherguest » Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:19 pm

Neither should be president or in the running for the role, but if I had to pick one Biden is the better option.
Start picking younger leaders and try to pick a decent one please America, then maybe other countries will follow suit.


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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:33 pm

Holly wrote:In the interest of fairness, lets have a look at this man also.
Any better? :ooer:


Perhaps you missed the context accidentally.

I'm more inclined to think you missed it because your Death Cult Leader doesn't allow critical thinking.

But you definitely missed it, so here are the highlights again.

Joe Biden is definitely showing signs of memory loss due to aging.

This is normal and doesn't indicate any kind of cognitive impairment. It's entirely possible to have a bad memory and remain perfectly rational and coherent. Albert Einstein had a notoriously bad memory and is considered the blueprint for the classic 'Absent Minded Professor' - no lack of cognition just a lack of memory.

Donald Trump is displaying a symptom called phonemic paraphasias which is always a sign of brain damage.

From that Dr Garten, a qualified neuroscientist, concludes that whilst it is true to say both Trump and Biden aren't as sharp as they were a couple of decades ago the cognitive decline of Trump is better evidenced by his current behaviour.

A worry is that another symptom Trump is showing, that Biden is not, is hypermania.

Hypermania is characterised by
pressured speech.
inflated self-esteem or grandiosity.
decreased need for sleep.
flight of ideas or the subjective experience that thoughts are racing.
easily distracted.
Psychomotor agitation

Think about all the times is on his social media platform posting dozens of messages between midnight and the early morning, or those times he makes those odd gestures with his hands that mean nothing.

Both are in evidence in Trump and neither are in Joe Biden.

Hence the neuroscientists professional opinion that whilst Biden is unquestionably aging Trump is showing symptoms of the heritable disorder we know affected his father in later life.
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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Stooo » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:00 pm

He's glitching like Mitch...

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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:33 pm

cONFIRMATION AND FORUM AGREEMENT AT LAST THAT NEITHER OF THEM SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
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Re: A tale of two brains.

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:05 pm

Justanotherguest wrote:Neither should be president or in the running for the role, but if I had to pick one Biden is the better option.
Start picking younger leaders and try to pick a decent one please America, then maybe other countries will follow suit.


Bieber for Prez :popcorn:

Probably true and I think, this is just a personal opinion, that the USA is going through the sort of existential crisis that faced the Soviet Union when it was run by a series of political apparatchiks with no thought of improving the political landscape in which they operated.

However that said if it's a choice between Khrushchev and Stalin given me Khrushchev every time.
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