Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm

Dover Port Health Authority has confirmed it seized 2.5 tonnes of illegal pork products from 22 vehicles checked over a single weekend at the beginning of October. The discovery occurred during a multi-agency exercise at the port – part of the work to reduce the risk of African swine fever entering the country.


https://www.farmersguide.co.uk/serious- ... -at-dover/

There's also an article in The Times but it's behind a paywall.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/magg ... -gm6lgv0w5

Following Brexit food safety checks on imports coming to the UK became the responsibility of the UK government and unfortunately not only are they not being carried out now we don't have the infrastructure to carry them out, we don't have the staff to carry them out and with looming cuts in spending we aren't likely to develop that capacity anytime soon.

If this one-off inspection is anything to go by that means vast amounts of unsafe food are being sold into the British market.

To counter the obvious. The EU has no control over what is shipped to the UK, we are a third party country with our own food safety and biosecurity regulations. The EU exports to countries where food safety standards are much different and it's up to all third party countries to enforce their own rules. This means since leaving the Single Market the UK no longer shares food safety inspections with the EU, and the ERG led Conservatives specifically voted down amendments that would have put such measures in place.

As we have neither the capacity, the infrastructure nor the ability to do these checks for ourselves we should reach an agreement to keep food safety standards aligned and share inspections with the EU.
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Re: Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Stooo » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:56 pm

There's a lot of this happening and will need the border inspections that the UK has been avoiding since getting brexit done because it would be harmful to the economy according to the now departed Minister for Brexit Opportunities. Fact is the EU doesn't really give a shit as to what's exported to third countries, rotten meat could be used for fertiliser or pet food rather than human consumption, no declarations for use needed so there's no regulations to stop it.
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Re: Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:07 am

Is feeding our children rotten meat one of the BREXIT benefits we were promised?
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Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:13 pm

Stooo wrote:There's a lot of this happening and will need the border inspections that the UK has been avoiding since getting brexit done because it would be harmful to the economy according to the now departed Minister for Brexit Opportunities. Fact is the EU doesn't really give a shit as to what's exported to third countries, rotten meat could be used for fertiliser or pet food rather than human consumption, no declarations for use needed so there's no regulations to stop it.

As unpleasant as it may sound rotten meat is used in many beauty products too.

Exporting animal products that are not fit for human consumption isn't illegal, selling it back into the food chain is illegal and, if they're not in the single market, that is something the receiving country has to control.
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Re: Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Stooo » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:16 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Stooo wrote:There's a lot of this happening and will need the border inspections that the UK has been avoiding since getting brexit done because it would be harmful to the economy according to the now departed Minister for Brexit Opportunities. Fact is the EU doesn't really give a shit as to what's exported to third countries, rotten meat could be used for fertiliser or pet food rather than human consumption, no declarations for use needed so there's no regulations to stop it.

As unpleasant as it may sound rotten meat is used in many beauty products too.

Exporting animal products that are not fit for human consumption isn't illegal, selling it back into the food chain is illegal and, if they're not in the single market, that is something the receiving country has to control.


Something that has been avoided since brexit got done, we're running out of time before the WTO (the very same WTO that we were assured had rules that would not interrupt trade) starts to impose sanctions on the UK.
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Re: Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:22 pm

Am I being dumb or will more checks mean longer lead times meaning greater costs and fewer products?

It sounds to me like a whole load more inflation on the way.
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Postby Stooo » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:17 pm

Guest wrote:Am I being dumb or will more checks mean longer lead times meaning greater costs and fewer products?

It sounds to me like a whole load more inflation on the way.


We haven't got enough people to do the checks in the first place, if we want to export especially food to a foreign market then it has to be to the standards of that market. Things like animal welfare and veterinary inspection of every major carcase (not birds or game) with the relevant paperwork before it's accepted at customs. However, according to the leave people our produce is open to the global market rather than the place next door and guess what? They have standards for imports too.

This wasn't a problem back in the day because around 95% of our abattoir vets were Spanish but they went back home and the stuff that we imported was assured to be of a standard because of single market regs, we now let any old shit in now without checks and some of it's filth because it's cheap. :dunno:
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Re: Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:51 pm

Let's not forget our great UK CA mark to replace the EU CE mark which

Isn't ready - the standards haven't even been written
Isn't ready - the inspections protocols haven't been decided
Isn't ready - there aren't enough inspectors

and isn't ready because the enabling legislation hasn't been passed in Parliament.

Oh and when it is ready it will slow down exports even more because UK CA and EU CE won't be the same and therefore by WTO rules there will have to be additional inspections and customs border checks.
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Re: Massive Food Safety Risks Uncovered

Postby Stooo » Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:03 pm

This was an utterly shit proposal from the start and remainers were wrong, it's turning out far worse than they predicted.
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