Afrophobia

Afrophobia

Postby Maddog » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:56 pm

The president of Malawi has described travel bans imposed by several nations - including the United States - in response to a new strain of the coronavirus as "Afrophobia," joining other African leaders in condemning the restrictions.

Many countries have closed their borders to travelers from southern Africa after the new virus variant, dubbed omicron, was identified by South African scientists last week. Experts have warned that travel restrictions probably are too late to be effective, with cases already emerging as far away as Asia and Australia.

The bans have also angered political leaders in Africa who view them as hasty and unjustified - scapegoating countries that have been quick to come forward with information on a potentially dangerous new variant. South Africa's health minister on Friday described the measures as "misdirected" and "draconian."



https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/a ... 659087.php


It's probably way too late and useless, but leaders need to look like they are doing something to protect their serfs. Effectiveness isn't nearly as important as the theater.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby drum » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:38 am

cases in Scotland now, same as any other variants, they spread.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:18 am

drum wrote:cases in Scotland now, same as any other variants, they spread.

Like new planets in distant galaxies or the Higgs boson particle the new Omicron variant was not discovered purely by chance and the high level of concern is not merely due to an abundance of caution.

Alpha and Delta variants were in all broadcasts, even Delta + got some coverage where Beta and Gamma were scarcely mentioned, that was not purely by chance either.

Data on covid infections is collected everyday and forecasts about future infection rates are made and revised every day, and when the forecasts made for tomorrow a week ago are too much higher than the forecast we made for tomorrow yesterday investigations into why begin. Start digging, but X marks the spot and there's very little doubt about what will be found.

For most people that's just government listening to scientists and doing the job you elected them to do.

For Replacement Theory advocates that's a cue to say the new variant was designed in a lab and tested in South Africa and now THEY are dispersing it - I don't know lemon soaked paper napkins maybe - and
EVERYBODY PANIC
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Raggamuffin » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:36 am

Maddog wrote:
The president of Malawi has described travel bans imposed by several nations - including the United States - in response to a new strain of the coronavirus as "Afrophobia," joining other African leaders in condemning the restrictions.

Many countries have closed their borders to travelers from southern Africa after the new virus variant, dubbed omicron, was identified by South African scientists last week. Experts have warned that travel restrictions probably are too late to be effective, with cases already emerging as far away as Asia and Australia.

The bans have also angered political leaders in Africa who view them as hasty and unjustified - scapegoating countries that have been quick to come forward with information on a potentially dangerous new variant. South Africa's health minister on Friday described the measures as "misdirected" and "draconian."



https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/a ... 659087.php


It's probably way too late and useless, but leaders need to look like they are doing something to protect their serfs. Effectiveness isn't nearly as important as the theater.


Why did S Africa share the info about Omicron with the rest of the world if they expected no other country to do something about it?

Having said that, having travel restrictions is pretty pointless now that Omicron is out there. Maybe some countries will ban flights from the UK, and they're entitled to do so.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Maddog » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:01 pm

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Maddog wrote:
The president of Malawi has described travel bans imposed by several nations - including the United States - in response to a new strain of the coronavirus as "Afrophobia," joining other African leaders in condemning the restrictions.

Many countries have closed their borders to travelers from southern Africa after the new virus variant, dubbed omicron, was identified by South African scientists last week. Experts have warned that travel restrictions probably are too late to be effective, with cases already emerging as far away as Asia and Australia.

The bans have also angered political leaders in Africa who view them as hasty and unjustified - scapegoating countries that have been quick to come forward with information on a potentially dangerous new variant. South Africa's health minister on Friday described the measures as "misdirected" and "draconian."



https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/a ... 659087.php


It's probably way too late and useless, but leaders need to look like they are doing something to protect their serfs. Effectiveness isn't nearly as important as the theater.


Why did S Africa share the info about Omicron with the rest of the world if they expected no other country to do something about it?

Having said that, having travel restrictions is pretty pointless now that Omicron is out there. Maybe some countries will ban flights from the UK, and they're entitled to do so.


Yeah, you really have to cut off the entire world because its going to spread out of S Africa and eventually arrive through other countries.

This thing seems like it's going to keep rolling until it infects everyone at least once.

Managing it at this point in the game doesn't mean stopping it. Just keeping the hospitals from overflowing.

But as I said, politicians need to look like they are doing something and trying to protect their serfs. Useless travel bans fit that description.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:34 pm

Since they were laughed off the internet for constant references to slavery the extreme right have tried to introduce the word Serfs to describe anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Which is strange when you consider the extreme right's position of freedom of movement.

The essential additional mark of serfdom was the lack of many of the personal liberties that were held by freedmen. Chief among these was the serf’s lack of freedom of movement; he could not permanently leave his holding or his village without his lord’s permission.

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The defining condition of serfdom was the lack of freedom of movement, the idea that a person had to stay in thrall to his employer, serve only at the will of his employer and move or stay based only on the will of an employer - serfdom's closest equivalent today is an At Will employment contract.

Another feature was the lack of control women had over their reproductive rights. Marriage services are in part a remnant of a ceremony where a lord was notified that a father had given over control of one of his daughters to another man. Serfs could not lawfully cohabit or have children without the lord's permission - hence the term illegitmate (literally outside the law). And of course here it is the extreme right that wish to continue the practices of serfdom too, denying women the right to control their own bodies.

Anyone who supports the Koch brothers agenda on removing employment rights, removing labours' right to organise and removing worker protections is advocating FOR serfdom not fighting against it.

So when a clueless fuckwit from the extreme right tries to slip the word serfs in remind them - serfs are what they have chosen to be.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:49 pm

Where did the extreme right get the idea that disease control measures are tyrannical.

If you're desperate to prove you're 'free' why not set up a colony here

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The Hanford Site in Washington, USA. Over 550 square miles for you to set up a Libertarian colony.

The Tyrannical government will tell you it's heavily polluted with over 56 million gallons of toxic nuclear waste but as you know science is all fake and you know it's just the totalitarians trying to keep this huge site for themselves, beat them out by setting up your homes there.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Maddog » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:21 pm

More from the article.....

South Africa's president Cyril Ramaphosa said he was "deeply disappointed" by the travel bans and called for them to be lifted immediately.

"The prohibition of travel is not informed by science. Nor will it be effective in preventing the spread of this variant," he said in a televised broadcast. "The only thing the prohibition on travel will do is to further damage the economies of the affected countries and undermine their ability to respond to and also to recover from the pandemic."
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:06 pm

Funny how Maddog wants unlimited travel from Africa but posts hysterical fears about Haitian refugees.

Sounds like he's being a good little serf for his corporate masters.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Guest » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:06 am

Maddog wrote:
The president of Malawi has described travel bans imposed by several nations - including the United States - in response to a new strain of the coronavirus as "Afrophobia," joining other African leaders in condemning the restrictions.

Many countries have closed their borders to travelers from southern Africa after the new virus variant, dubbed omicron, was identified by South African scientists last week. Experts have warned that travel restrictions probably are too late to be effective, with cases already emerging as far away as Asia and Australia.

The bans have also angered political leaders in Africa who view them as hasty and unjustified - scapegoating countries that have been quick to come forward with information on a potentially dangerous new variant. South Africa's health minister on Friday described the measures as "misdirected" and "draconian."



https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/a ... 659087.php


It's probably way too late and useless, but leaders need to look like they are doing something to protect their serfs. Effectiveness isn't nearly as important as the theater.




Why is Biden banning travel from other countries?
Didn't he accuse Trump of being a racist and a xenophobe for doing just that. Stating that someone who did that shouldn't be President?
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Postby Maddog » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:23 am

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Maddog wrote:
The president of Malawi has described travel bans imposed by several nations - including the United States - in response to a new strain of the coronavirus as "Afrophobia," joining other African leaders in condemning the restrictions.

Many countries have closed their borders to travelers from southern Africa after the new virus variant, dubbed omicron, was identified by South African scientists last week. Experts have warned that travel restrictions probably are too late to be effective, with cases already emerging as far away as Asia and Australia.

The bans have also angered political leaders in Africa who view them as hasty and unjustified - scapegoating countries that have been quick to come forward with information on a potentially dangerous new variant. South Africa's health minister on Friday described the measures as "misdirected" and "draconian."



https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/a ... 659087.php


It's probably way too late and useless, but leaders need to look like they are doing something to protect their serfs. Effectiveness isn't nearly as important as the theater.




Why is Biden banning travel from other countries?
Didn't he accuse Trump of being a racist and a xenophobe for doing just that. Stating that someone who did that shouldn't be President?


Yeah he did.

Politics and hypocrisy sorta go hand in hand. .
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:35 am

Joe Biden is reacting within ten hours of a variant being discovered and is banning ALL travel.

Trump's travel ban was limited to Chinese people only and to leisure travel only - it had no chance of success and only served to heighten xenophobic sentiments towards Asian Americans
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Raggamuffin » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:23 am

Cactus Jack wrote:Joe Biden is reacting within ten hours of a variant being discovered and is banning ALL travel.

Trump's travel ban was limited to Chinese people only and to leisure travel only - it had no chance of success and only served to heighten xenophobic sentiments towards Asian Americans


Biden banning travel is good isn't it? They haven't detected Omicron in the US as far as I know. Why shouldn't he try to keep it out?
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Maddog » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:10 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Joe Biden is reacting within ten hours of a variant being discovered and is banning ALL travel.

Trump's travel ban was limited to Chinese people only and to leisure travel only - it had no chance of success and only served to heighten xenophobic sentiments towards Asian Americans


Biden banning travel is good isn't it? They haven't detected Omicron in the US as far as I know. Why shouldn't he try to keep it out?



https://www.businessinsider.com/omicron ... retarded-2021-11

Its here. We just haven't found any cases yet.

And banning flights from Africa wont help at this point.
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Re: Afrophobia

Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:28 pm

Maddog wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Joe Biden is reacting within ten hours of a variant being discovered and is banning ALL travel.

Trump's travel ban was limited to Chinese people only and to leisure travel only - it had no chance of success and only served to heighten xenophobic sentiments towards Asian Americans


Biden banning travel is good isn't it? They haven't detected Omicron in the US as far as I know. Why shouldn't he try to keep it out?



https://www.businessinsider.com/omicron ... retarded-2021-11

Its here. We just haven't found any cases yet.

And banning flights from Africa wont help at this point.

There speaks someone who doesn't understand maths - despite his claims to be an economic genius.

There may well be cases already in the USA - we don't know for sure - but each day more of the people coming from Africa will have a greater chance of carrying the Omicron variant.

Each person with the Omicron variant is a potential source to spread the variant. Fewer people mean less of a chance for the variant to spread.

Each new person also stretches the resources needed to track and trace contacts, from a level that might well be manageable to one that certainly will not - this is where the UK's inability to build a track and trace system expeditiously enough cost thousands of lives last year.

Curtailing ALL flights from Africa, not just a select few of those least likely to carry back the variant, is a proportionate response that will buy time while the public is urged to increase its level of protection by getting vaccinated and while all civic authorities work on restricting the virus' ability to spread.

It's called government and it is what politicians are supposed to do.
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