Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Guest wrote:The Republicans holding up a Ukrainian aid package is causing all sorts of problems in the battlefront for the Ukrainians.
Lack of ammunition, small bore and artillery shells, plus anti aircraft equipment etc, is seeing the UAF having to use their logistics sparingly against constant Russian barrages and offences using mechanised infantry and tanks.
The UAF are ceding land to the Russians, and the latter are amassing large forces to attempt to smash through Ukrainian lines, and if they do so, then Ukrainian cities will be at their mercy.
With republicans echoing official lines from Moscow, this is a very dangerous time for Ukraine.
They are now in dire straits and if they lose, the west will have Moscow on their doorstep.
Another iron curtain will descend over Europe.
Why should the USA pay for the Ukraine to defend itself when there are numerous nations closer that should be funding them to stop Russia over running their countries?
Fuck the EU
Shit always kicks off there. It's funny how Americans are cunts until we want their tax dollars
They already pay as you know.
I understand that it's your job to post pro-Putin and anti-West propaganda but could you at least be more subtle
Text wrote:The zillionaires have long since had their multistorey underground bunkers ready in case of apocalypse. Probably raring to go. The rest of us can fry for all they care. Hey ho.
Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Guest wrote:The Republicans holding up a Ukrainian aid package is causing all sorts of problems in the battlefront for the Ukrainians.
Lack of ammunition, small bore and artillery shells, plus anti aircraft equipment etc, is seeing the UAF having to use their logistics sparingly against constant Russian barrages and offences using mechanised infantry and tanks.
The UAF are ceding land to the Russians, and the latter are amassing large forces to attempt to smash through Ukrainian lines, and if they do so, then Ukrainian cities will be at their mercy.
With republicans echoing official lines from Moscow, this is a very dangerous time for Ukraine.
They are now in dire straits and if they lose, the west will have Moscow on their doorstep.
Another iron curtain will descend over Europe.
Why should the USA pay for the Ukraine to defend itself when there are numerous nations closer that should be funding them to stop Russia over running their countries?
Fuck the EU
Shit always kicks off there. It's funny how Americans are cunts until we want their tax dollars
They already pay as you know.
I understand that it's your job to post pro-Putin and anti-West propaganda but could you at least be more subtle
Guest wrote:Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Guest wrote:The Republicans holding up a Ukrainian aid package is causing all sorts of problems in the battlefront for the Ukrainians.
Lack of ammunition, small bore and artillery shells, plus anti aircraft equipment etc, is seeing the UAF having to use their logistics sparingly against constant Russian barrages and offences using mechanised infantry and tanks.
The UAF are ceding land to the Russians, and the latter are amassing large forces to attempt to smash through Ukrainian lines, and if they do so, then Ukrainian cities will be at their mercy.
With republicans echoing official lines from Moscow, this is a very dangerous time for Ukraine.
They are now in dire straits and if they lose, the west will have Moscow on their doorstep.
Another iron curtain will descend over Europe.
Why should the USA pay for the Ukraine to defend itself when there are numerous nations closer that should be funding them to stop Russia over running their countries?
Fuck the EU
Shit always kicks off there. It's funny how Americans are cunts until we want their tax dollars
They already pay as you know.
I understand that it's your job to post pro-Putin and anti-West propaganda but could you at least be more subtle
They pay fuck all, hence why Trump wanted to pull the US out of NATO.
If they already pay as you say then they need to increase the payments. From what I'm reading Americans are sick of funding Ukraine and giving money to the war monger companies. And you know who is complaining the most... the woke left college kids.
They want help to get a decent paying job and afford to buy a house. While watching illegals get all their free shit
I think it was CNN only last weekend had a group of Democratic voters on screen who were asked who the thought would do best with the running of the country. Shockingly everyone of them all said Trump.
It's not looking good
guest wrote:When this all started our Politicians and our media said the power hungry madman Putin was gravely ill and would soon be overthrown because the Russian economy would tank with all the economic sanctions and because of all their military losses of soldiers, equipment, tanks and ships.
At the same time our Politicians and our media said if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Putin's armies would roll into Poland, Romania, Germany, France and then into Britain. Hence we must all be willing to accept the Putin Price Hike as the Ukrainians paid with Ukrainian lives.
Two contradictory narratives with the same end goal:
a) keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians in this war against Russia.
b) the downfall of Putin and Russia is near, they are on their last legs, so we must all keep funding and supporting this.
c) if we don't keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians, Putin and Russia will invade Poland, Romania, Germany, France and Britain and it will be too late for all of us.
guest wrote:When this all started our Politicians and our media said the power hungry madman Putin was gravely ill and would soon be overthrown because the Russian economy would tank with all the economic sanctions and because of all their military losses of soldiers, equipment, tanks and ships.
At the same time our Politicians and our media said if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Putin's armies would roll into Poland, Romania, Germany, France and then into Britain. Hence we must all be willing to accept the Putin Price Hike as the Ukrainians paid with Ukrainian lives.
Two contradictory narratives with the same end goal:
a) keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians in this war against Russia.
b) the downfall of Putin and Russia is near, they are on their last legs, so we must all keep funding and supporting this.
c) if we don't keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians, Putin and Russia will invade Poland, Romania, Germany, France and Britain and it will be too late for all of us.
Stooo wrote:guest wrote:When this all started our Politicians and our media said the power hungry madman Putin was gravely ill and would soon be overthrown because the Russian economy would tank with all the economic sanctions and because of all their military losses of soldiers, equipment, tanks and ships.
At the same time our Politicians and our media said if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Putin's armies would roll into Poland, Romania, Germany, France and then into Britain. Hence we must all be willing to accept the Putin Price Hike as the Ukrainians paid with Ukrainian lives.
Two contradictory narratives with the same end goal:
a) keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians in this war against Russia.
b) the downfall of Putin and Russia is near, they are on their last legs, so we must all keep funding and supporting this.
c) if we don't keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians, Putin and Russia will invade Poland, Romania, Germany, France and Britain and it will be too late for all of us.
No they won't.
Guest wrote:guest wrote:When this all started our Politicians and our media said the power hungry madman Putin was gravely ill and would soon be overthrown because the Russian economy would tank with all the economic sanctions and because of all their military losses of soldiers, equipment, tanks and ships.
At the same time our Politicians and our media said if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Putin's armies would roll into Poland, Romania, Germany, France and then into Britain. Hence we must all be willing to accept the Putin Price Hike as the Ukrainians paid with Ukrainian lives.
Two contradictory narratives with the same end goal:
a) keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians in this war against Russia.
b) the downfall of Putin and Russia is near, they are on their last legs, so we must all keep funding and supporting this.
c) if we don't keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians, Putin and Russia will invade Poland, Romania, Germany, France and Britain and it will be too late for all of us.
That’s three, not two.
What are you actually trying to say?
Go ahead and try to explain.
guest wrote:Guest wrote:guest wrote:When this all started our Politicians and our media said the power hungry madman Putin was gravely ill and would soon be overthrown because the Russian economy would tank with all the economic sanctions and because of all their military losses of soldiers, equipment, tanks and ships.
At the same time our Politicians and our media said if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Putin's armies would roll into Poland, Romania, Germany, France and then into Britain. Hence we must all be willing to accept the Putin Price Hike as the Ukrainians paid with Ukrainian lives.
Two contradictory narratives with the same end goal:
a) keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians in this war against Russia.
b) the downfall of Putin and Russia is near, they are on their last legs, so we must all keep funding and supporting this.
c) if we don't keep funding and supporting the Ukrainians, Putin and Russia will invade Poland, Romania, Germany, France and Britain and it will be too late for all of us.
That’s three, not two.
What are you actually trying to say?
Go ahead and try to explain.
a) Is the end goal. b&c are contradictory arguments in support of a)
Guest wrote:Why talk a lot of shit to then state the obvious?
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