IamtheWalrus wrote:I’ll simplify it for you, so there’s no need for your accusations of “cheerleading for Iran” in response to pointing out basic facts;
1) The IRGC is a terrorist organiser/state
2) The IRGC funds Hamas to carry out their bidding, to destabilise the region.
3) Netanyahu’s Government allowed/facilitated said funding to reach Hamas in Gaza, because he wants to prevent the coming together of Palestinians in Gaza (ruled by Hamas) and Palestinians in the West Bank (ruled by PLA). If Hamas are actually removed, and the PLA takes control of Gaza, Netanyahu risks a stronger single entity controlling Palestinians.
Pointing these simple facts out doesn’t make someone anti-Semitic, nor a Hamas supporter, nor a cheerleader for Iran, it makes them an adult who is able to discuss geopolitics without throwing labels at others. I hope this is easy enough for you to understand?
Right, so we agree that Israel isn't the "greatest funder of Hamas then, thanks for clearing that up
And I never said anything about anti semitism, I simply said "imagine being so anti Israel that you cheerlead for Hamas"
Criticism of Israel isn't anti semitism or did you forget that?
I stand by everything I've said regarding a certain moon based cheerleader for Iran. It's embarrassing but par for the course multiple Avf guests have tried to play semantics whilst accusing me of playing semantics only to end up agreeing with me.
The only article that was linked in support of the "greatest funder" claim specifically referred to Qatari suitcases of cash, a fact that was curiously omitted. It shouldn't take all night to arrive at where you are now - admitting that any funding doesn't actually come from Israel
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The point about “Netanyahu funding Hamas” is that the funds from Qatar would never have reached Hamas if he hadn’t have actively facilitated them, hence the claim (including by the Times of Israel article linked earlier) that Israel/Netanyhau has “funded Hamas”. He’s even reported as stating that point himself in a Likud meeting in 2019 as a political benefit.
You repeating the same “ah, but the money came from Qatar, so Israel don’t fund Hamas!” isn’t the great defence you appear to believe as, like most things in the region, it’s much more complex than that. I haven’t “arrived” anywhere, nor have I changed the point I made in the first place.
Also, if you’re just going to continue to label anyone “anti-Semitic” because you disagree with them pointing things like this out, you’re no better than those people who label anyone they disagree with “racist”, it just devalues actual antisemitism.