Titanic sub missing

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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Guest » Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:23 pm

None of them went on this mission expecting to die, despite the disclaimer. It's a great loss to lose so many pioneers in their own right.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Stooo » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:37 pm

Guest wrote:None of them went on this mission expecting to die, despite the disclaimer. It's a great loss to lose so many pioneers in their own right.


Tourists, the area has been mapped and recorded many times, I believe that there was even a film about it.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Middens » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:46 pm

The only thing that could be described as pioneering is that they were trying to do it in jerry-rigged equipment instead of proper equipment which I think is crazy rather than pioneering.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Raving NLi » Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:46 pm

Middens wrote:The only thing that could be described as pioneering is that they were trying to do it in jerry-rigged equipment instead of proper equipment which I think is crazy rather than pioneering.


The large pieces being brought to the surface are a bit odd for a cataclysmic implosion, it looks more like the hull fractured in several places.

Some expert warned the company, that not being completely round in build, which would cause equal pressure around the hull, the non-round design might cause pressure problems.

It certainly looks as though it did, and five lives have been lost needlessly.

It’s appearing as though this could have been avoidable had the owners followed expert advice and got certified.

Tragic.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:46 pm

Raving NLi wrote:
Middens wrote:The only thing that could be described as pioneering is that they were trying to do it in jerry-rigged equipment instead of proper equipment which I think is crazy rather than pioneering.


The large pieces being brought to the surface are a bit odd for a cataclysmic implosion, it looks more like the hull fractured in several places.

Some expert warned the company, that not being completely round in build, which would cause equal pressure around the hull, the non-round design might cause pressure problems.

It certainly looks as though it did, and five lives have been lost needlessly.

It’s appearing as though this could have been avoidable had the owners followed expert advice and got certified.

Tragic.


There was no hull, it was a plastic tube. These bits are essentially the chassis.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Raven NLI » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:54 pm

Stooo wrote:
Raving NLi wrote:
Middens wrote:The only thing that could be described as pioneering is that they were trying to do it in jerry-rigged equipment instead of proper equipment which I think is crazy rather than pioneering.


The large pieces being brought to the surface are a bit odd for a cataclysmic implosion, it looks more like the hull fractured in several places.

Some expert warned the company, that not being completely round in build, which would cause equal pressure around the hull, the non-round design might cause pressure problems.

It certainly looks as though it did, and five lives have been lost needlessly.

It’s appearing as though this could have been avoidable had the owners followed expert advice and got certified.

Tragic.


There was no hull, it was a plastic tube. These bits are essentially the chassis.


Spherical metal hulls distribution of pressure evenly is the secret to their strength.
This doughnut’s non - spherical, non-metal hull was the cause of its demise.
The more we hear, the more we realise what a stupid vehicle it was for such deep diving.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:07 pm

Raven NLI wrote:Spherical metal hulls distribution of pressure evenly is the secret to their strength.
This doughnut’s non - spherical, non-metal hull was the cause of its demise.
The more we hear, the more we realise what a stupid vehicle it was for such deep diving.


It was a bad idea at best.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Raving NLI » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:46 pm

Stooo wrote:
Raven NLI wrote:Spherical metal hulls distribution of pressure evenly is the secret to their strength.
This doughnut’s non - spherical, non-metal hull was the cause of its demise.
The more we hear, the more we realise what a stupid vehicle it was for such deep diving.


It was a bad idea at best.

Irresponsible even.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Text » Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:57 pm

Raven NLI wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Raving NLi wrote:
Middens wrote:The only thing that could be described as pioneering is that they were trying to do it in jerry-rigged equipment instead of proper equipment which I think is crazy rather than pioneering.


The large pieces being brought to the surface are a bit odd for a cataclysmic implosion, it looks more like the hull fractured in several places.

Some expert warned the company, that not being completely round in build, which would cause equal pressure around the hull, the non-round design might cause pressure problems.

It certainly looks as though it did, and five lives have been lost needlessly.

It’s appearing as though this could have been avoidable had the owners followed expert advice and got certified.

Tragic.


There was no hull, it was a plastic tube. These bits are essentially the chassis.


Spherical metal hulls distribution of pressure evenly is the secret to their strength.
This doughnut’s non - spherical, non-metal hull was the cause of its demise.
The more we hear, the more we realise what a stupid vehicle it was for such deep diving.

Ya the spherical shape is uniquely special, its special qualities gives it advantages that no other shape has.
One thing that the lad said that is sooo very true, is that outer space is less dangerous than inner space (the deep sea).
We know so much about the former, and very little about the latter.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Text » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:05 pm

Guest wrote:None of them went on this mission expecting to die, despite the disclaimer. It's a great loss to lose so many pioneers in their own right.

Yeah sad. Fortunately several pioneers turned him down.
Risk taking is essential in order to advance civilisation, we know this. But this particular venture was bordering on reckless.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Grafenwalder » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:21 pm

This was uploaded in 2013 - five years before Rush had Titan built.

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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Stooo » Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:18 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:This was uploaded in 2013 - five years before Rush had Titan built.

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At least it was quick.
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:14 am

Stooo wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:This was uploaded in 2013 - five years before Rush had Titan built.

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At least it was quick.


They have the voice recording from the submersible to the mother ship online, and from 9.28 am when they started to realise something was wrong and were trying to release the ballast and ascend, until 9.46 am, which was the final contact. So they had over 15 minutes of knowing something wasn't right. Truly a nightmare scenario
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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Grafenwalder » Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:38 pm

BBC Travel Show filmed a documentary showing a dive in Titan to the Titanic. Closing the hatch front is done by using a ratchet wrench from a socket set. Not even a torque wrench - they just wang up the nuts! Even this dive wasn't without drama as once it got to the bottom the 'pilot' couldn't get it to steer straight - it kept spinning round! :yikes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p ... to-titanic

This guy claims to have seen the transcripts of the fateful dive. Not sure of its authenticity but if correct it shows they were going down far too quick. It also shows all onboard knew there was a problem 20 minutes before implosion.

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Re: Titanic sub missing

Postby Holly » Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:48 pm

OMG, If they knew what's going to happen, I couldn't even imagine the fear they must have felt those minutes before the implosion, knowing that this is it.
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