The Trans Thread #2

[IamtheWalrus]

And there's no other agenda?

Right-wing media use Cass Report to justify violence against parents of trans youth

Whilst I'm reluctant to play the "genetic fallacy" = (dismissing something on the source rather than the content itself) it's worth pointing out that Pink News is unashamedly partisan.

However, the most important thing is to point out the general way scientific studies get reported on by the media and then waved around/dismissed depending on whether they support/debunk your opinion.

The most obvious example would be studies relating to weight loss - because weight loss is extremely tribal, for the simple reason that if someone loses a lot of weight on diet A then they become religious about diet A, likewise if Diet B didn't work for them then they become just as religious that diet B doesn't work.

Hence why a lot of people believe that "carbs make you fat" and that "counting calories" or "calories in, calories out" doesn't work.

Now let's say a study comes out that says Diet A doesn't work:

Supporters of Diet A will say:

"the study wasn't long enough!"

"the study didn't have enough participants!"

"the study didn't monitor closely enough what the participants ate!"

"this wasn't a proper Diet A"

"the study was funded by people who make Diet B foods!"



And then all of the supporters of Diet B will say that the study was exceptional, flawless etc.

Then when a study of Diet B comes out, then the roles are reversed.


This is what we are seeing with the Cass report, and why it's important to make sure we do not fall into the same trap with fallacious logic and clinging to our existing opinions/biases

[Stooo]

And there's no other agenda?

Right-wing media use Cass Report to justify violence against parents of trans youth


This is what we are seeing with the Cass report, and why it's important to make sure we do not fall into the same trap with fallacious logic and clinging to our existing opinions/biases

I'm not really a biased person but I am a massive fan of logic, I've always found that it helps to shape your opinion rather than faith does. Hoping for something to happen doesn't make it happen.

[Toke 'n' gesture]

FFS

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

[Stooo]

FFS

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed

[Middens]

FFS

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

I wonder if they'll be sacked given the recent unfair dismissal court cases here in the UK.

[Guest]

FFS

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

What a fucked up world we now live in.
Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed

[Stooo]

FFS

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

What a fucked up world we now live in.
Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed

What a fucked up quote, get a grip.

[Guest]

FFS

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

What a fucked up world we now live in.
Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed

What a fucked up quote, get a grip.

Really? Says a man who believes in “chest feeding and person with ovaries.”
Biologically, you’ve gone past bordering on insane.
Big clue. Don’t fuck with nature, it always ends badly.
How on earth you justify all this shit is beyond comprehension.

[Stooo]

Really? Says a man who believes in “chest feeding and person with ovaries.”
Biologically, you’ve gone past bordering on insane.
Big clue. Don’t fuck with nature, it always ends badly.
How on earth you justify all this shit is beyond comprehension.

No, says a mod who points out that you don't know how to format.

You need to stop being a victim and get a life.

[Guest]

Really? Says a man who believes in “chest feeding and person with ovaries.”
Biologically, you’ve gone past bordering on insane.
Big clue. Don’t fuck with nature, it always ends badly.
How on earth you justify all this shit is beyond comprehension.

No, says a mod who points out that you don't know how to format.

You need to stop being a victim and get a life.

What does that even mean?
Please explain.

[Toke 'n' gesture]

Scottish nurseries caring for babies and toddlers have been told children can “come out” as transgender at “any age” after pre-schools adopted SNP guidelines.

Ministers are under increasing pressure to scrap the Scottish Government rules, which are intended to be applicable to primary schools but make no mention of nurseries.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.15-184249/ht ... t-any-age/

[Cherry de Voured]

:shake head:

Scottish nurseries caring for babies and toddlers have been told children can “come out” as transgender at “any age” after pre-schools adopted SNP guidelines.

Ministers are under increasing pressure to scrap the Scottish Government rules, which are intended to be applicable to primary schools but make no mention of nurseries.

https://archive.ph/2024.05.15-184249/ht ... t-any-age/

There's literally no story there... What EXACTLY - and be precise - are you actually angry about in that story from the Telegraph?

I know it's a tabloid newspaper and they rely on a bit of sensationalism to get the story across, but what - PRECISELY - are you so disturbed about in that report? Any idea?