The Trans Thread #2

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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Middens » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:33 pm

The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Toke 'n' gesture » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:00 am

About fucking time :yess:

The NHS is to crack down on transgender ideology in hospitals, with terms like “chestfeeding” set to be banned.
Victoria Atkins, the Health Secretary, will this week announce a series of changes to the NHS constitution which sets out patients’ rights.
Referring to “people who have ovaries” rather than “women” will also be prohibited under plans to ensure hospitals use clear language based on biological sex.


It was behind a paywall but this link will work.

https://archive.ph/2024.04.28-061814/ht ... stitution/
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Guest » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:53 pm

Hope authorities of various sorts will stop erasing words like "women" and "mother" on the paperwork, too.

How the fuck did we even get here anyway? And so quickly!
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Red Okktober » Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:16 pm

Guest wrote:Hope authorities of various sorts will stop erasing words like "women" and "mother" on the paperwork, too.

How the fuck did we even get here anyway? And so quickly!


The advent of the internet and social media is to blame for most of it. In pre-internet days, this kind of stuff would never have happened. Anyone suggesting that women were 'people with ovaries' would have been ridiculed.

It's just snowballed online and has created a 'woke army' - legions of weak-willed individuals, who collectively latch onto a cause to give them some kind of purpose in life

Here's a NHS pic featuring 21 flags representing different 'genders and sexualities' - I guarantee that if anyone looks into the background of those idiots above the flag, they will find personality disorders and very unfulfilling lives.

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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Guest » Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:48 pm

Red Okktober wrote:
Guest wrote:Hope authorities of various sorts will stop erasing words like "women" and "mother" on the paperwork, too.

How the fuck did we even get here anyway? And so quickly!


The advent of the internet and social media is to blame for most of it. In pre-internet days, this kind of stuff would never have happened. Anyone suggesting that women were 'people with ovaries' would have been ridiculed.

It's just snowballed online and has created a 'woke army' - legions of weak-willed individuals, who collectively latch onto a cause to give them some kind of purpose in life

Here's a NHS pic featuring 21 flags representing different 'genders and sexualities' - I guarantee that if anyone looks into the background of those idiots above the flag, they will find personality disorders and very unfulfilling lives.

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Hey! Come on! Respect their pronouns FFS! :pmsl:
You might not agree with these fucking weirdos promoting this entire load of bollocks, but you must, at the very least, respect their right to batshit crazy, woke wombats!
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Guest » Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:37 pm

Red Okktober wrote:
Guest wrote:Hope authorities of various sorts will stop erasing words like "women" and "mother" on the paperwork, too.

How the fuck did we even get here anyway? And so quickly!


The advent of the internet and social media is to blame for most of it. In pre-internet days, this kind of stuff would never have happened. Anyone suggesting that women were 'people with ovaries' would have been ridiculed.

It's just snowballed online and has created a 'woke army' - legions of weak-willed individuals, who collectively latch onto a cause to give them some kind of purpose in life

Here's a NHS pic featuring 21 flags representing different 'genders and sexualities' - I guarantee that if anyone looks into the background of those idiots above the flag, they will find personality disorders and very unfulfilling lives.

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How riveting! Flag shaggers are one of Stooo’s pet hates.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 am

Red Okktober wrote:
Guest wrote:Hope authorities of various sorts will stop erasing words like "women" and "mother" on the paperwork, too.

How the fuck did we even get here anyway? And so quickly!


The advent of the internet and social media is to blame for most of it. In pre-internet days, this kind of stuff would never have happened. Anyone suggesting that women were 'people with ovaries' would have been ridiculed.

It's just snowballed online and has created a 'woke army' - legions of weak-willed individuals, who collectively latch onto a cause to give them some kind of purpose in life

Here's a NHS pic featuring 21 flags representing different 'genders and sexualities' - I guarantee that if anyone looks into the background of those idiots above the flag, they will find personality disorders and very unfulfilling lives.

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Proof positive, the lunatics have definitely overtaken the asylum.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Middens » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:05 am

That's Humza Useless on the way out. This gender stuff really destroys political careers.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Toke 'n' gesture » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:41 pm

A social worker who was suspended over her gender critical views has been awarded almost £58,000 in damages from Westminster city council and Social Work England.
In what lawyers described as an unprecedented move by a court to award exemplary damages against a regulator, an employment tribunal called for both the council and the watchdog to train their staff in the principles of freedom of speech.


https://archive.ph/2024.04.28-204947/ht ... -2b7c337n7
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Middens » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:26 pm

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:
A social worker who was suspended over her gender critical views has been awarded almost £58,000 in damages from Westminster city council and Social Work England.
In what lawyers described as an unprecedented move by a court to award exemplary damages against a regulator, an employment tribunal called for both the council and the watchdog to train their staff in the principles of freedom of speech.


https://archive.ph/2024.04.28-204947/ht ... -2b7c337n7


Adopting Stonewall's "best practice" policies in the workplace has been extremely costly for some employers. They can't demand "accept it, there is no debate" in court and it just doesn't stand up legally.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Stooo » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:17 pm

Middens wrote:The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.


The Cass report is at best an opinion. You only need to look at the sources and dig around a bit.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Stooo » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:19 pm

Middens wrote:That's Humza Useless on the way out. This gender stuff really destroys political careers.


More to do with comms and timing. The heydays of the SNP are over, Frank, get the doooor!
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Middens » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:28 pm

Stooo wrote:
Middens wrote:The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.


The Cass report is at best an opinion. You only need to look at the sources and dig around a bit.


Well a lot of the trans rights people have been claiming it's far right propaganda. However most organisations accept it's a well-researched paper done by a highly qualified paediatrician. It relies on quality clinical evidence rather than poor quality studies, personal beliefs or personal anecdotes.

It's actually a sign that transgender healthcare (at least in children) is beginning to be treated seriously with it getting the same scrutiny and expectations of standards as every other area of healthcare. I think the quacks and chancers are afraid of that as there's money to be made out of the parents of vulnerable children.
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Stooo » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:12 pm

Middens wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Middens wrote:The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.


The Cass report is at best an opinion. You only need to look at the sources and dig around a bit.


Well a lot of the trans rights people have been claiming it's far right propaganda. However most organisations accept it's a well-researched paper done by a highly qualified paediatrician. It relies on quality clinical evidence rather than poor quality studies, personal beliefs or personal anecdotes.

It's actually a sign that transgender healthcare (at least in children) is beginning to be treated seriously with it getting the same scrutiny and expectations of standards as every other area of healthcare. I think the quacks and chancers are afraid of that as there's money to be made out of the parents of vulnerable children.


And there's no other agenda?

Right-wing media use Cass Report to justify violence against parents of trans youth

These are a tiny amount of people who have always been there so why are they suddenly marginalised?
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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Postby Guest » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:09 pm

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:
A social worker who was suspended over her gender critical views has been awarded almost £58,000 in damages from Westminster city council and Social Work England.
In what lawyers described as an unprecedented move by a court to award exemplary damages against a regulator, an employment tribunal called for both the council and the watchdog to train their staff in the principles of freedom of speech.


https://archive.ph/2024.04.28-204947/ht ... -2b7c337n7

A verdict of common sense overriding the bullies who put this woman through hell, and tried to destroy her life in a despicable manner.
This is excellent news.
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