Guest wrote:Vam wrote:Trapper John wrote:People still do it, even in both camps on here. The question isn't whether there is 'global warming' or 'global cooling' it's whether man's influence has anything to do with it.
The global climate is changing, but like many experts whose opinions are ignored, buried or forcibly denied say, there isn't any evidence to say that man has any control over it.
The fossil and geological records show that dramatic climatic changes have occured many hundreds of times in Earth's history, long before man existed. We are just undergoing one of these 'natural occurances.' It could last 20 years, it could last a hundred years or a thousand or forevermore, man can have no malevolent or benevolent affect on it.
The Sun is pretty much the only thing that has an effect on Earth temperature, we have never and will never have any control over that.
It's the perfect scam for the people who have engineered this so called 'crisis.'
Firstly, when it will undoubtedly be discovered at some future date that all of man's efforts to affect global climate were a complete waste of time and a totally useless and hideously expensive excercise, they will be long dead and won't have to answer for their lies.
Secondly, making the 15th and arguably the most useful element to man, Carbon in all it's forms, the culprit is like requesting a blank cheque from the world.....man made Co2 emissions have no noticable affect on the global climate or the Earth's temperature.
...which is a much more detailed way of saying what I posted right at the start of this thread: I'm inclined to believe that global warming and climate change are a historically cyclic phenomena, rather than man-made.
Given the kind of silly money you've cited that's being poured into perpetuating the man-made theory, I'm even more inclined to stick to my belief.
By the time it took you to write that post an area the size of a football pitch was lost to tree loggers.
What effect does tree logging in Amazonia have?
Is tree logging a man made effect?
Maybe you'd like to tell us what effect tree logging in the Amazon has on the global environment?
Undoubtedly, from an aesthetic and even moral point of view it's not nice, nor is it from a local ecological stand point but we aren't talking about that, we're talking about man's influence on climate change, you know, the reason we are being taxed to the hilt.
So, back to your question. Most of a football pitch sized chunk of the Amazon rain forest will almost certainly be converted into furniture and building materials, as it's hard wood and ideal for that.
Contrary to what you've been told, Trees but not all trees by the way, produce oxygen at the expense of Co2. Many species of trees produce as much Co2 as they do oxygen and young trees almost always produce more. By far the largest consumers of Co2 and producers of the air we breathe are the algaes of the great seas and oceans, in fact all algae from the Pacific to your garden pond, do that in a far more efficient way, than trees.
You will also be aware that since the end of the last ice age to today, a global area 10 times the size of the entire Amazon rain forest has been de-forested, yet there has been no noticable, long term or sustained rise in Co2 levels and oxygen has remained at the constant 21% it is now, for millions of years. Our own British Isles was almost entirely covered in trees from the Scottish lowlands to the south coast, as recent as when the Romans arrived. Where are those trees now?
Man undoubtedly has an affect on his environment, often in an unpleasant way - it doesn't mean that every instance of pollution and possible earth ending catastrophe, has man at his heart.
Man made global warming is at best a deceit for more noble reasons, at worst, a downright lie purposely fabricated to screw global taxes from the masses and make certain individuals and multi-nationals very rich.
Do yourself a favour, every time you get financially screwed, question the reasons and ask yourself if they are valid, don't just cough up because they say so, thats what they expect you to do.
