So, do YOU believe?

[McAz]

In what exactly?

In intelligent alien life out there...somewhere in the universe. For all we know, WE could be viewed as alien life here on Planet Earth

Certainly hope so.

We evolved here so we can't be.

I meant I hope there's intelligent life out there. But hopefully it's compassionate as well otherwise us humans will get beaten up for being the thickos of the universe.

Or even eaten.

[LordRaven]

Certainly hope so.

We evolved here so we can't be.

I meant I hope there's intelligent life out there. But hopefully it's compassionate as well otherwise us humans will get beaten up for being the thickos of the universe.

Or even eaten.

[Lady Murasaki]

In intelligent alien life out there...somewhere in the universe. For all we know, WE could be viewed as alien life here on Planet Earth

Certainly hope so.

We evolved here so we can't be.

I meant I hope there's intelligent life out there. But hopefully it's compassionate as well otherwise us humans will get beaten up for being the thickos of the universe.

Or even eaten.

Well at least someone will benefit from the so called obesity crisis.

[LordRaven]

Signs of Alien Life Will Be Found by 2025, NASA's Chief Scientist Predicts
Humanity is on the verge of discovering alien life, high-ranking NASA scientists say.

"I think we're going to have strong indications of life beyond Earth within a decade, and I think we're going to have definitive evidence within 20 to 30 years," NASA chief scientist Ellen Stofan said Tuesday (April 7) during a panel discussion that focused on the space agency's efforts to search for habitable worlds and alien life.

"We know where to look. We know how to look," Stofan added during the event, which was webcast live. "In most cases we have the technology, and we're on a path to implementing it. And so I think we're definitely on the road." [5 Bold Claims of Alien Life]
Former astronaut John Grunsfeld, associate administrator for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, shared Stofan's optimism, predicting that signs of life will be found relatively soon both in our own solar system and beyond.

"I think we're one generation away in our solar system, whether it's on an icy moon or on Mars, and one generation [away] on a planet around a nearby star," Grunsfeld said during Tuesday's event.
Recent discoveries suggest that the solar system and broader Milky Way galaxy teem with environments that could support life as we know it, Grunsfeld said.

For example, oceans of liquid water slosh beneath the icy shells of the Jupiter moons Europa and Ganymede, as well as that of the Saturn satellite Enceladus. Oceans covered much of Mars in the ancient past, and seasonal dark streaks observed on the Red Planet's surface today may be caused by salty flowing water.

Further, NASA's Curiosity rover has found carbon-containing organic molecules and "fixed" nitrogen, basic ingredients necessary for Earth-like life, on the Martian surface.
Farther afield, observations by NASA's Kepler space telescope suggest that nearly every star in the sky hosts planets — and many of these worlds may be habitable. Indeed, Kepler's work has shown that rocky worlds like Earth and Mars are probably more common throughout the galaxy than gas giants such as Saturn and Jupiter.

And just as the solar system is awash in water, so is the greater galaxy, said Paul Hertz, director of NASA's Astrophysics Division.

The Milky Way is "a soggy place," Hertz said during Tuesday's event. "We can see water in the interstellar clouds from which planetary systems and stellar systems form. We can see water in the disks of debris that are going to become planetary systems around other stars, and we can even see comets being dissipated in other solar systems as [their] star evaporates them." [6 Most Likely Places for Alien Life in the Solar System]
Looking for life

Hunting for evidence of alien life is a much trickier proposition than identifying potentially habitable environments. But researchers are working steadily toward that more involved and ambitious goal, Stofan and others said.

For example, the agency's next Mars rover, scheduled to launch in 2020, will search for signs of past life and cache samples for a possible return to Earth for analysis. NASA also aims to land astronauts on Mars in the 2030s — a step Stofan regards as key to the search for Mars life.

"I'm a field geologist; I go out and break open rocks and look for fossils," Stofan said. "Those are hard to find. So I have a bias that it's eventually going to take humans on the surface of Mars — field geologists, astrobiologists, chemists — actually out there looking for that good evidence of life that we can bring back to Earth for all the scientists to argue about."

NASA is also planning out a mission to Europa, which may launch as early as 2022. The main goal of this $2.1 billion mission will be to shed light on the icy moon's potential habitability, but it could also search for signs of alien life: Agency officials are considering ways to sample and study the plumes of water vapor that apparently erupt from Europa's south polar region.

In the exoplanet realm, the agency's James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), an $8.8 billion instrument scheduled to launch in 2018, will scope out the atmospheres of nearby "super-Earth" alien planets, looking for gases that may have been produced by life.

JWST will scan the starlight that passes through the air of super-Earths, which are more massive than our own planet but significantly less so than gaseous worlds such as Uranus and Neptune. This method, called transit spectroscopy, will likely not work for potentially habitable Earth-size worlds, Hertz said.

Searching for biosignature gases on small, rocky exoplanets will instead probably require direct imaging of these worlds, using a "coronagraph" to block out the overwhelming glare of their parent stars, Hertz added.
http://www.space.com/29041-alien-life-e ... -nasa.html

[McAz]

Or even eaten.

Well at least someone will benefit from the so called obesity crisis.

Meat eating aliens may well prefer lean meat as many of us do - it's the skinnys who need to worry.

[rollup]

Many believe that life evolved on other planets and that it might be millions of years older than humans. Thus they also believe that aliens would have had the time to develop the incredible technologies, as depicted in much Sci-Fi. However, no amount of advanced technology could actually defy or ‘turn off’ the laws of physics that govern our universe. This would be necessary even to travel at a reasonable fraction of the speed of light, let alone faster. Despite lip service to the problems in series like Star Trek, such as “inertial dampers”, these remain firmly as science fiction. The problems in basic physics are insurmountable

http://creation.com/g-forces-space-travel-problem

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

[LordRaven]

Many believe that life evolved on other planets and that it might be millions of years older than humans. Thus they also believe that aliens would have had the time to develop the incredible technologies, as depicted in much Sci-Fi. However, no amount of advanced technology could actually defy or ‘turn off’ the laws of physics that govern our universe. This would be necessary even to travel at a reasonable fraction of the speed of light, let alone faster. Despite lip service to the problems in series like Star Trek, such as “inertial dampers”, these remain firmly as science fiction. The problems in basic physics are insurmountable

http://creation.com/g-forces-space-travel-problem

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

[random]

Many believe that life evolved on other planets and that it might be millions of years older than humans. Thus they also believe that aliens would have had the time to develop the incredible technologies, as depicted in much Sci-Fi. However, no amount of advanced technology could actually defy or ‘turn off’ the laws of physics that govern our universe. This would be necessary even to travel at a reasonable fraction of the speed of light, let alone faster. Despite lip service to the problems in series like Star Trek, such as “inertial dampers”, these remain firmly as science fiction. The problems in basic physics are insurmountable

http://creation.com/g-forces-space-travel-problem

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

Knowledge is what we know in our thinking mind, and all our other senses confirm it

[LordRaven]

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

Knowledge is what we know in our thinking mind, and all our other senses confirm it

We live and learn

[random]

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

Knowledge is what we know in our thinking mind, and all our other senses confirm it

We live and learn

Ok. Not knowledge. Our beliefs.

[McAz]

Many believe that life evolved on other planets and that it might be millions of years older than humans. Thus they also believe that aliens would have had the time to develop the incredible technologies, as depicted in much Sci-Fi. However, no amount of advanced technology could actually defy or ‘turn off’ the laws of physics that govern our universe. This would be necessary even to travel at a reasonable fraction of the speed of light, let alone faster. Despite lip service to the problems in series like Star Trek, such as “inertial dampers”, these remain firmly as science fiction. The problems in basic physics are insurmountable

http://creation.com/g-forces-space-travel-problem

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

Not in science it's not.

"Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis. According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a hypothesis is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step — known as a theory — in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon."

(Courtesy: Live Science)

[rollup]

We now see one object can be in two places at once and possibly more.
Affect one and the you affect the other.
This defies everything we thought we knew.
Or appears to.
There are so many uncertainties that we really have no idea what may be just around the corner.
If laws relating to physics hold up as we understand them right now it doesn't mean we won't be able to manipulate those laws at some point in the future.
The large Hadron Collider is at present delving deeply into the stuff that makes up our reality.
At some point if not already they will start manipulating altering that reality so we have no idea what the future holds in the way of space time experiments and adventures.

[LordRaven]

Many believe that life evolved on other planets and that it might be millions of years older than humans. Thus they also believe that aliens would have had the time to develop the incredible technologies, as depicted in much Sci-Fi. However, no amount of advanced technology could actually defy or ‘turn off’ the laws of physics that govern our universe. This would be necessary even to travel at a reasonable fraction of the speed of light, let alone faster. Despite lip service to the problems in series like Star Trek, such as “inertial dampers”, these remain firmly as science fiction. The problems in basic physics are insurmountable

http://creation.com/g-forces-space-travel-problem

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

Not in science it's not.

"Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis. According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a hypothesis is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step — known as a theory — in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon."

(Courtesy: Live Science)

You have just described the scientific method of any experiment to turn theory into actual knowledge-well done, you're getting there

[McAz]

We now see one object can be in two places at once and possibly more.
Affect one and the you affect the other.
This defies everything we thought we knew.
Or appears to.
There are so many uncertainties that we really have no idea what may be just around the corner.
If laws relating to physics hold up as we understand them right now it doesn't mean we won't be able to manipulate those laws at some point in the future.
The large Hadron Collider is at present delving deeply into the stuff that makes up our reality.
At some point if not already they will start manipulating altering that reality so we have no idea what the future holds in the way of space time experiments and adventures.

Electrons, photons and perhaps other "timeless" particles - but they are not really objects as such. Besides, the properties of the quantum level do not negate the truth of the laws of physics in the "normal" spacetime universe. But of course there are wonders ahead - our journey, or perhaps those who will replace us, is only just beginning.

[McAz]

Many believe that life evolved on other planets and that it might be millions of years older than humans. Thus they also believe that aliens would have had the time to develop the incredible technologies, as depicted in much Sci-Fi. However, no amount of advanced technology could actually defy or ‘turn off’ the laws of physics that govern our universe. This would be necessary even to travel at a reasonable fraction of the speed of light, let alone faster. Despite lip service to the problems in series like Star Trek, such as “inertial dampers”, these remain firmly as science fiction. The problems in basic physics are insurmountable

http://creation.com/g-forces-space-travel-problem

We don't know all the laws of the universe.
Most of our knowledge is still theoretical.

Knowledge is what we know.
Theory is what we don't know but theorise

Not in science it's not.

"Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis. According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a hypothesis is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step — known as a theory — in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon."



(Courtesy: Live Science)

You have just described the scientific method of any experiment to turn theory into actual knowledge-well done, you're getting there

No I haven't - so your latest attempt at condescension has again failed.

"The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public," said Jaime Tanner, a professor of biology at Marlboro College. "Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts."