Why Are We Fawning Over Traitors? - Lock Up Or Get Rid!

[Lady Murasaki]

Cleopatra wrote

"Tower Hamlet-stan", "Islamic State whores", "Islamic sluts", "filthy scum", "wannabe terrorist whore", "Muslim scum", "white British-hating", "want them to die", "want their body parts in Ali Ackbars Mini-mart plastic bag".

If he posted that on Twitter and was reported he'd be getting a knock on the door. That is hate speech.

TJ mightn't have chosen words you approve off but he's right in what he's saying...when is enough enough of western niceness and tolerance FFS? You want your children to speak Arabic and wear a burka in 10/20 years, then go right ahead with your dangerous pc crap...sorry Cleo, but I don't get your laid back attitude. It's time to wake up and see what's happening around you. Being "nice" doesn't work

He's not right in the way he says it. Scare mongering and hate preaching is exactly what you oppose in your enemies but you can't seem to spot it in him.

[McAz]

As others have said, employing hate speech - quite possibly (and rightly) illegal - and hurling puerile abuse does nothing to advance the debate. If the purpose of extreme Islam is to destroy our civilisation then TJ and his like play right into their hands - for they have no civility left to destroy.

[Puzzler]

Cleopatra wrote

"Tower Hamlet-stan", "Islamic State whores", "Islamic sluts", "filthy scum", "wannabe terrorist whore", "Muslim scum", "white British-hating", "want them to die", "want their body parts in Ali Ackbars Mini-mart plastic bag".

If he posted that on Twitter and was reported he'd be getting a knock on the door. That is hate speech.

TJ mightn't have chosen words you approve off but he's right in what he's saying...when is enough enough of western niceness and tolerance FFS? You want your children to speak Arabic and wear a burka in 10/20 years, then go right ahead with your dangerous pc crap...sorry Cleo, but I don't get your laid back attitude. It's time to wake up and see what's happening around you. Being "nice" doesn't work

Well said Holly.

[Puzzler]

Meh - I think he was pretty restrained given that those 3 girls have signed up to live off the backs of slaves, be accessories at the very least to genocide, and enforce sharia law on the women living under ISIS control.

You cannot argue with people like the Aziz, Punks and Cleo's of this world, they will continue to appease Islam and make apologies for the atrocities carried out in it's name, right up to and after their heads hit the floor when they've been separated from the necks - I'm guessing they might have slightly surprised looks on their faces.

If those young British girls return they should face the full force of the law, OUR law, if the law has been broken and face any consequences thereafter. They have the right to a fair trial as British citizens and cannot be arbitrarily hung, drawn and quartered. Unless we follow I.S. rules, of course?

Why our law? It is not British citizens they've committed war crimes against, it's the Kurds, Yazidi, Syrian and Iraqi Shias and Christians. Are those people lesser in your eyes, that if the scum return we shouldn't extradite these 3 'British'(lol - they gave up their citizenship IMO when they decided to pledge allegiance to the 7th century warlord Al Baghdadi) girls to face trial in the country(ies) whose people they've helped to oppress? At the very least they should be put on trial in the Hague, not sent to one of our comparatively comfortable prisons free to radicalise/force other inmates to convert.

[McAz]

Meh - I think he was pretty restrained given that those 3 girls have signed up to live off the backs of slaves, be accessories at the very least to genocide, and enforce sharia law on the women living under ISIS control.

You cannot argue with people like the Aziz, Punks and Cleo's of this world, they will continue to appease Islam and make apologies for the atrocities carried out in it's name, right up to and after their heads hit the floor when they've been separated from the necks - I'm guessing they might have slightly surprised looks on their faces.

If those young British girls return they should face the full force of the law, OUR law, if the law has been broken and face any consequences thereafter. They have the right to a fair trial as British citizens and cannot be arbitrarily hung, drawn and quartered. Unless we follow I.S. rules, of course?

Why our law? It is not British citizens they've committed war crimes against, it's the Kurds, Yazidi, Syrian and Iraqi Shias and Christians. Are those people lesser in your eyes, that if the scum return we shouldn't extradite these 3 'British'(lol - they gave up their citizenship IMO when they decided to pledge allegiance to the 7th century warlord Al Baghdadi) girls to face trial in the country(ies) whose people they've helped to oppress? At the very least they should be put on trial in the Hague, not sent to one of our comparatively comfortable prisons free to radicalise/force other inmates to convert.

But they are subject to foreign laws (while on foreign soil at least) as well as our own already - and they can already be extradited to countries with whom we have extradition agreements.

And do you seriously think putting 3 young girls on trial in the Hague will do anything but inflame? Do grow up Puzzler - you are capable of better.

[Maddog]

Please don't let them come over here after their ISIS vacation.

[Guest]

But they are subject to foreign laws (while on foreign soil at least) as well as our own already - and they can already be extradited to countries with whom we have extradition agreements.

And do you seriously think putting 3 young girls on trial in the Hague will do anything but inflame? Do grow up Puzzler - you are capable of better.

I asked you earlier in thread what are your views on British people travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS?

[measurer]

I think they haven't had much said to them for what they have did, but is this the three that only arrived there weeks ago? If so, they probably didn't get to do anything, and of not, maybe they don't want to make a big deal out of it for a reason.

I disagree with their views on going there but we give them those rights. You have to look for the imam or fanatic who put the idea into these girl's heads. Maybe that's why it's not being raked over, who knows.

[McAz]

But they are subject to foreign laws (while on foreign soil at least) as well as our own already - and they can already be extradited to countries with whom we have extradition agreements.

And do you seriously think putting 3 young girls on trial in the Hague will do anything but inflame? Do grow up Puzzler - you are capable of better.

I asked you earlier in thread what are your views on British people travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS?

And?

[McAz]

But to be clear - British adults should be free to travel wherever they please.

[Trapper John]

It's racist to condemn ISIS now?

Puerile (and pointless ) name-calling can be - here's summery of the UK's hate speech laws - you decide:

In the United Kingdom, several statutes criminalize hate speech against several categories of persons. The statutes forbid communication which is hateful, threatening, abusive, or insulting and which targets a person on account of skin colour, race, disability, nationality (including citizenship), ethnic or national origin, religion, or sexual orientation.

TJ might not have minced his words, but as far as I know calling people slags, whores etc doesn't really fall under anything you just listed

"Tower Hamlet-stan", "Islamic State whores", "Islamic sluts", "filthy scum", "wannabe terrorist whore", "Muslim scum", "white British-hating", "want them to die", "want their body parts in Ali Ackbars Mini-mart plastic bag".

If he posted that on Twitter and was reported he'd be getting a knock on the door. That is hate speech.

All the statements in the OP's are fact, absolute truths - why would you want to suppress the truth? ...... and your apparent zeal for the oppression of free speech and the condoning of a 'knock on the door' is really quite disturbing.

It seems that we are very much closer to the Nazi/ Stalinist/ Islamic State that people like you say is just a figment of my imagination -you are proof positive that it is alive and well in Britain today.

I find your appeasement and backing of people - who have availed themselves of all the freedoms and benefits this country has allowed them to enjoy for their entire lives, only to throw it back in it's face, by wanting to join an organisation whose 'stated aim' is to bring our society down and turn it into an oppressive medieval theocracy - not only distasteful but absolutely disgusting.

[Trapper John]

And do you seriously think putting 3 young girls on trial in the Hague will do anything but inflame?

Appeasement at it's finest - lets not talk about the murdering savages who are tearing across the middle East leaving death and destruction in their wake - it might upset them.

[Trapper John]

Here you are Cleo, some more lovely, misunderstood kids for you to fawn over and make excuses for:

Two of the British medical students who have crossed into Islamic State-held areas are a brother and sister in their early 20s whose family are the latest to join a frantic group of relatives at the Turkish border.

All of the group, believed to be 11 or 12 strong, had Sudanese roots and were studying medicine or recent graduates from medical school living in Khartoum. A majority are British citizens but a couple are thought to be Sudanese.

The Guardian

[McAz]

And do you seriously think putting 3 young girls on trial in the Hague will do anything but inflame?

Appeasement at it's finest - lets not talk about the murdering savages who are tearing across the middle East leaving death and destruction in their wake - it might upset them.

Please link to the murders that these 3 girl have committed.

[McAz]

Here you are Cleo, some more lovely, misunderstood kids for you to fawn over and make excuses for:

Two of the British medical students who have crossed into Islamic State-held areas are a brother and sister in their early 20s whose family are the latest to join a frantic group of relatives at the Turkish border.

All of the group, believed to be 11 or 12 strong, had Sudanese roots and were studying medicine or recent graduates from medical school living in Khartoum. A majority are British citizens but a couple are thought to be Sudanese.

The Guardian

“Don’t worry about us, we’ve reached Turkey and are on our way to volunteer helping wounded Syrian people,” medical student Lena Maumoon Abdulqadir wrote.

The Home Office has said the medics would not automatically face prosecution under anti-terror laws if they tried to return to the UK, as long as they could prove they had not been fighting.

The Guardian (from the same article).