Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:01 pm

When you can do this without bashing or scraping anything , then you can drive an HGV - and when it seems he's leaving the yard he's not, that's only half the job!

Plus it's pissing with rain, going dark and he has no banksman to help.

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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Maddog » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:02 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:Training to be a HGV driver (practical) takes only 5 days.
The entire process takes between 8 to 10 weeks.
Just looked at another site and it claimed to take 6 to 8 weeks to complete traing :dunno:
So roughly every 2 months you could have hundreds or thousands of HGV drivers ready to deliver goods all over the UK.
Why not make it a part of receiving benefits. That you learn to do a task that helps in time of crisis?
What harm could it do to make everyone on SS learn first aid or CPR etc.


Being in charge of a 40 tonne truck rather than a scooter maybe?


Had he clicked into the link he would have found that once you get a licence there is a further period of training often including shadowing and existing driver and then a period of assessment followed by a competency test in which a driver will have 1.5 to 2 hours of exhaustive testing where they will be permitted no major faults and only 15 minor ones.

The majority of applicants, it warns, don't successfully complete the process.



Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?

Your theories on race again?


Just mocking you.

Somehow, there were enough humans that knew how to operate trucks before.

Were the tests easier or was it a cultural thing?
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Stooo » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:03 pm

Maddog wrote:Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?


No, we just don't have enough truck drivers.
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:03 pm

Maddog wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Being in charge of a 40 tonne truck rather than a scooter maybe?


Had he clicked into the link he would have found that once you get a licence there is a further period of training often including shadowing and existing driver and then a period of assessment followed by a competency test in which a driver will have 1.5 to 2 hours of exhaustive testing where they will be permitted no major faults and only 15 minor ones.

The majority of applicants, it warns, don't successfully complete the process.



Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?

Your theories on race again?


Just mocking you.

Somehow, there were enough humans that knew how to operate trucks before.

Were the tests easier or was it a cultural thing?

And how would culture come into it?

Do you have some Social Darwinist theories to share?
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Maddog » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:04 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:When you can do this without bashing or scraping anything , then you can drive an HGV - and when it seems he's leaving the yard he's not, that's only half the job!

Plus it's pissing with rain, going dark and he has no banksman to help.

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Who said it was easy.

According to this article you have soldiers trained to do this. No reason civilians can't be brought up to speed quickly.

Except testing sites run by useless government workers are backed up.
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Maddog » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:05 pm

Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?


No, we just don't have enough truck drivers.


Train
Them
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Stooo » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:06 pm

Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?


No, we just don't have enough truck drivers.


Train
Them


They
Don't
Want
To
Do
It
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:08 pm

Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?


No, we just don't have enough truck drivers.


Train
Them

You keep coming back to that but never have any solutions regarding the obstacles.

We need them now - we would have to have trained them in the past to have them now - we didn't train them in the past so we don't have them now.

Are we any clearer?
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Maddog » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:09 pm

Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?


No, we just don't have enough truck drivers.


Train
Them


They
Don't
Want
To
Do
It


Then why is there a backlog for testing?

Who are these fuckers lined up?
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Maddog » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:13 pm

Elizabeth de Jong, policy director at Logistics UK, said: “It is good to see the urgent focus placed by Government on increased HGV driver testing with DVSA, as this is currently the biggest blocker to new entrants entering the workforce, but without targets and a workable timeline, this is simply a statement of intent.

"We need to know how soon the backlog of 25,000 test passes can be cleared more swiftly by the DVSA, as we estimate at current rates this will take 27 weeks."


^Here is your fucking problem.

Thanks Graf. :thumbsup:
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:15 pm

Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:Maybe Brits are genetically inferior at driving compared to the folks from Poland?


No, we just don't have enough truck drivers.


Train
Them


They
Don't
Want
To
Do
It


Then why is there a backlog for testing?

Who are these fuckers lined up?

Pandemic shut down test centres.
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Maddog » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:16 pm

More problems from shut downs eh?

What a surprise.
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:18 pm

Maddog wrote:More problems from shut downs eh?

What a surprise.

Oh theres more. :laughing:

As is the case with most sectors, the new Brexit Britain has caused a considerable shakeup in the Transport sector and is one of the main causes for the current driver shortage. This is the result of post-Brexit immigration policies prioritising high-skilled immigration, which have made it legally impossible to employ EU citizens as HGV drivers. This, due to workers not being eligible for a skilled worker visa.
https://checkpoint-safety.com/news/all- ... ulage.aspx
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Stooo » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:19 pm

Maddog wrote:Elizabeth de Jong, policy director at Logistics UK, said: “It is good to see the urgent focus placed by Government on increased HGV driver testing with DVSA, as this is currently the biggest blocker to new entrants entering the workforce, but without targets and a workable timeline, this is simply a statement of intent.

"We need to know how soon the backlog of 25,000 test passes can be cleared more swiftly by the DVSA, as we estimate at current rates this will take 27 weeks."


^Here is your fucking problem.

Thanks Graf. :thumbsup:


Sure that's part of the problem but don't forget that we are at a state of overemployment in the UK which means that 25k burger tossing youths are potentially getting themselves into trucking after the backlog goes which means that we are still short of around 40K truckers and no-one to feed the existing ones :dunno:
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Re: Army drivers on standby to relieve Britain’s food shortage

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:21 pm

Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:Elizabeth de Jong, policy director at Logistics UK, said: “It is good to see the urgent focus placed by Government on increased HGV driver testing with DVSA, as this is currently the biggest blocker to new entrants entering the workforce, but without targets and a workable timeline, this is simply a statement of intent.

"We need to know how soon the backlog of 25,000 test passes can be cleared more swiftly by the DVSA, as we estimate at current rates this will take 27 weeks."


^Here is your fucking problem.

Thanks Graf. :thumbsup:


Sure that's part of the problem but don't forget that we are at a state of overemployment in the UK which means that 25k burger tossing youths are potentially getting themselves into trucking after the backlog goes which means that we are still short of around 40K truckers and no-one to feed the existing ones :dunno:

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