Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Maddog » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:25 pm

SAN DIEGO (AP) — The Biden administration has begun flying Central American families expelled from the United States deep into Mexico as authorities encounter more families and unaccompanied children at the U.S.-Mexico border, two American officials said Friday.

For years, the U.S. government has intermittently flown deported Mexican migrants back home to make it more difficult to try to cross the border again, but this appears to be the first time it has flown Central Americans to Mexico instead of their home countries.

The first flight Thursday fell short of its targeted number of passengers because of elevated COVID-19 rates among migrants, according to two officials who are familiar with the policy change and spoke on the condition of anonymity because details were not intended to be made public. Reuters first reported on the change.

The flights were expected to continue, with plans for Mexico to deport the migrants to their home countries in Central America, the officials said. One official said the planes have capacity for 135 people.

The U.S. Homeland Security Department confirmed that it began expelling migrants by air to Mexico under a pandemic-related authority that prevents migrants from seeking asylum at the border. The department, which did not respond to a question about the nationalities of those aboard Thursday's flight, said the frequency of repeat crossers and transmissibility of the delta variant of the coronavirus necessitated the move.

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We have flown illegal immigrants out before, but we always flew them back to their home country.

We've never flown them most of the way there and then expected another country to deal with them.

Sure is an abrupt change from the campaign trail.

About as big a whopper as Trump's "Mexico will pay for the wall".

Biden and Trump are both liars. One's just more polite and reserved about it.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:35 pm

Today's words are False Equivelance.

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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Grafenwalder » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:39 pm

Maddog wrote:SAN DIEGO (AP) — The Biden administration has begun flying Central American families expelled from the United States deep into Mexico as authorities encounter more families and unaccompanied children at the U.S.-Mexico border, two American officials said Friday.

For years, the U.S. government has intermittently flown deported Mexican migrants back home to make it more difficult to try to cross the border again, but this appears to be the first time it has flown Central Americans to Mexico instead of their home countries.

Whose going to flip burgers, wash your cars, scrub the floors and empty bins for you? Oops I mean yall. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Maddog » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:02 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:SAN DIEGO (AP) — The Biden administration has begun flying Central American families expelled from the United States deep into Mexico as authorities encounter more families and unaccompanied children at the U.S.-Mexico border, two American officials said Friday.

For years, the U.S. government has intermittently flown deported Mexican migrants back home to make it more difficult to try to cross the border again, but this appears to be the first time it has flown Central Americans to Mexico instead of their home countries.

Whose going to flip burgers, wash your cars, scrub the floors and empty bins for you? Oops I mean yall. :gigglesnshit:



That's a damn good question.

I think enough are still getting through, but we no doubt have labor shortages..

I did have a girl cleaning the inside of my truck at the car wash the other day that spoke no English..

I imagine she is one of the ones that got through.

Also, we legally allow for quite a few immigrants. It's not like you can't move here. It's just ridiculously complicated.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:16 pm

Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Maddog » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:18 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.


Our paternalistic treatment of them has made too many of the dependent on us now.

That might have worked 100 years ago.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:20 pm

Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.


Our paternalistic treatment of them has made too many of the dependent on us now.

That might have worked 100 years ago.

Paternalistic genocide now there's a thing.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Maddog » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:24 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.


Our paternalistic treatment of them has made too many of the dependent on us now.

That might have worked 100 years ago.

Paternalistic genocide now there's a thing.


After the genocide.

Since first described by Chief Justice John Marshall, the United States has been deemed to have a moral and legal “trust responsibility” to the American Indian tribal nations that gave way so that the United States could exist. For nearly two centuries, the trust responsibility reflected a paternalistic view toward Indian tribes. As the United States has developed a more enlightened policy characterized by greater respect for “tribal self-governance,” tribal governments have experienced a renaissance. Federal policy has moved away from federal control and toward tribal empowerment. As a result, the trust responsibility’s paternalistic features have come to seem anachronistic, and the trust responsibility can be described today by a new set of norms. The evolution, however, is not complete. Some of the old paternalistic features continue to animate federal Indian law and serve as obstacles to tribal self-governance. Moreover, as tribal governments exercise greater powers, they are subject to new scrutiny. Perhaps ironically, even some Native Americans have sought to reinstate federal oversight of tribal nations. The shifting norms of federal policy have produced new conflicts and will require a new reckoning about the federal role as old norms clash with new.

https://harvardlawreview.org/2017/04/wh ... an-policy/
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:24 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.



And who would you hand the English immigration problem too then?
Why are they called Native Americans by the way?
They came across from Russian through Alaska or some place ( can't be bothered to look it up) :dunno:
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:29 pm

Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.


Our paternalistic treatment of them has made too many of the dependent on us now.

That might have worked 100 years ago.






I watched a video from the HOPI tribe a few days ago.
Some chief said that before the Europeans showed up they could drink the water straight from the river. It was Europe who pillaged the New World.
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Postby Guest » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:31 pm

Why is nobody on here tearing Dopey Joe a new asshole like they loved to do whit Trump?
There's plenty of video's every day now showing up on Youtube and twitter showing how bad Gropey Joe is. But silence about reeks of agenda.
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:33 pm

People seem to need regular reminders that it wasn't American people that caused the native populations to be put in fear and slaughtered.
It was Europeans.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Grafenwalder » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:38 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.

I'm just imagining MD being told, "go back to your country"! :laughing:
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Grafenwalder » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:40 pm

Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.


Our paternalistic treatment of them has made too many of the dependent on us now.

That might have worked 100 years ago.

You corralled 'em off into reservations wheeling them out as tourist attractions.
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Re: Uncle Joe is trying to save jet fuel.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:55 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maybe immigration control should be handed to native Americans?
They have experience of the problems.


Our paternalistic treatment of them has made too many of the dependent on us now.

That might have worked 100 years ago.

You corralled 'em off into reservations wheeling them out as tourist attractions.

To be fair it should start we not you.
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