Coronavirus Thread Part 3

[art0hur0moh]

oh... you elect ministers not governors! The national register is the government!

[art0hur0moh]

Yes it did end in may!

You are a fucking idiot.

Don't you remember, i am certain you commented about it!? New policies are temporary and will only be for 15 days to flatten the curve.

After coronaviruses season ended!!! I hinted as such at the time, and told you about pernicious illegal policies and regulations being easy to introduce and near imposable to get rid of.

None of this is a surprise to!!

and what medical qualifications? I wonder, did he find out who was backing and providing armes in the countries the he photographed the genocide?

During college, Cooper spent two summers as an intern at the Central Intelligence Agency while studying political science.[11] He pursued journalism with no formal journalistic education[12][13] and is a self-proclaimed "news junkie since [he] was in utero."[14] After his first correspondence work in the early 1990s, he took a break from reporting and lived in Vietnam for a year, during which time he studied the Vietnamese language at Vietnam National University, Hanoi.[15]

Channel One

Cooper at Qualcomm Stadium during the October 2007 California wildfires
After Cooper graduated from Yale, he tried to gain entry-level employment with ABC answering telephones, but was unsuccessful. Finding it hard to get his foot in the door of on-air reporting, Cooper decided to enlist the help of a friend in making a fake press pass. At the time, Cooper was working as a fact checker for the small news agency Channel One, which produces a youth-oriented news program that is broadcast to many junior high and high schools in the United States.[16] Cooper then entered Myanmar on his own with his [b][b]forged press pass[/b][/b] and met with students fighting the Burmese government.[14] He was ultimately able to sell his home-made news segments to Channel One.

[Cannydc]

Shooting the messenger, Art?

You can, but his message is nailed on.

It's over. Who cares about Trump? He is toast, a dead duck, and will be gone in January.

All Trump is doing now is killing more Americans by refusing to hand over pandemic data to Biden's people, preferring instead to tweet and play golf.

Apart from that he is a complete irrelevance.

The worst president in US history leaves kicking and screaming, without a shred of dignity and 250,000+ of his citizens dead. What a legacy.

[MungoBrush]

Oh dear me.

All that is required for a legally binding contract is offer and acceptance, consideration and an intent to create a legal obligation

How can you possibly post that, and then say that these countries are in different positions regarding purchase of Moderna vaccinations when they will all have a contract/option which will supply a certain number under certain conditions (availability, certification, cost etc).

If those conditions are not yet met - and they plainly aren't - all contracts/options will remain provisional and only legally binding if and when all conditions are met.

There's no doubt the EU are in a hugely strong position to buy 80m+ vaccinations once it passes muster. They wouldn't announce it otherwise.

Meanwhile, we are at the back of the queue with a last minute panic buy.

Exactly where one would expect....

So guest was right - Mungo didn't understand the basics of contracts either. Would my guess at an MOU be a reasonable one?

FFS how does Mungo manage to turn a computer on?

Yes, absolutely.

We regularly used MOUs when a product was being developed from scratch for us. Nice big safety net!

Poor old Cannydc.
Having trouble with English again are we?
Just to be perfectly clear - Moderna has issued a statement confirming that it has a contract with the UK Government for an initial supply of its Covid vaccine
Note to Cannydc:
This is not a MOU
It is not an option to purchase
It is not an "envisaged contract"

The EU does NOT have any contract with Moderna at this point in time
The US has a contract with Moderna for an initial supply and options for further purchases.

Got that?

(Reuters) - Moderna Inc confirmed on Tuesday it had agreed to supply its COVID-19 vaccine candidate, mRNA-1273, to the United Kingdom starting from the beginning of March, as long as it succeeds in gaining local regulatory approval.

The company’s statement did not disclose other terms of the agreement, including the number of doses it agreed to supply.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-healt ... SKBN27X1V2

[art0hur0moh]

Shooting the messenger, Art?

You can, but his message is nailed on.

It's over. Who cares about Trump? He is toast, a dead duck, and will be gone in January.

All Trump is doing now is killing more Americans by refusing to hand over pandemic data to Biden's people, preferring instead to tweet and play golf.

Apart from that he is a complete irrelevance.

The worst president in US history leaves kicking and screaming, without a shred of dignity and 250,000+ of his citizens dead. What a legacy.

That was democratic state responsibilities, ie, Cuomo, and doctors murdering patients with neglect or malpractice! I have also sourced fda covid 19 assay showing the numbers are bollocks!

[Cannydc]

Shooting the messenger, Art?

You can, but his message is nailed on.

It's over. Who cares about Trump? He is toast, a dead duck, and will be gone in January.

All Trump is doing now is killing more Americans by refusing to hand over pandemic data to Biden's people, preferring instead to tweet and play golf.

Apart from that he is a complete irrelevance.

The worst president in US history leaves kicking and screaming, without a shred of dignity and 250,000+ of his citizens dead. What a legacy.

That was democratic state responsibilities, ie, Cuomo, and doctors murdering patients with neglect or malpractice! I have also sourced fda covid 19 assay showing the numbers are bollocks!

No it isn't, no they didn't, no you haven't and no they aren't.

Apart from that you are 100% right.

[LordRaven]

Shooting the messenger, Art?

You can, but his message is nailed on.

It's over. Who cares about Trump? He is toast, a dead duck, and will be gone in January.

All Trump is doing now is killing more Americans by refusing to hand over pandemic data to Biden's people, preferring instead to tweet and play golf.

Apart from that he is a complete irrelevance.

The worst president in US history leaves kicking and screaming, without a shred of dignity and 250,000+ of his citizens dead. What a legacy.

That was democratic state responsibilities, ie, Cuomo, and doctors murdering patients with neglect or malpractice! I have also sourced fda covid 19 assay showing the numbers are bollocks!

No it isn't, no they didn't, no you haven't and no they aren't.

Apart from that you are 100% right.

[Cannydc]

Dr. Simon Ashworth writes;

I am a senior doctor in Critical Care in one of the UK’s largest Trusts, so unhappily I have gained expertise in COVID, and humbly I say that there is much more pressure on hospitals, especially their ICUs

ICU/Critical Care is one of those specialities which is a fulcrum on which most hospitals depend.

People who need major surgery often require ICU care as do those who suffer complications of cancer treatment, heart disease, trauma, infections, etc.
The UK has a baseline of around 3500 staffed ICU beds, far below countries like Germany, Italy, and the US

They barely meet our needs at the best of times…

So if ICU is full of people with COVID, we can’t treat people with cancer when complications arise, or who have had major surgery… there is no point doing operations unless you can get through the aftermath, and while ICU capacity is partly about “beds”, physical facilities, and equipment, more than anything it’s about skilled staff

And we don’t have enough.

Brexit, and the war on “Freedom of movement”, has made the situation much worse because it has dramatically reduced the number of EU citizens with professional skills we need who will work in Britain… it’s just a fact.

We are trying to maintain services to prevent the govt estimated 185,000 deaths that may occur due to non-COVID disease if hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID, and we are trying to prevent deaths directly due to COVID but the reckless pronouncements of people like Tice, Trump, “COVID hoaxers”, anti-vaxers, and other cranks are doing much harm, because they are decreasing compliance with lockdown, and undermining public understanding of COVID.

Definitively Tice is wrong and his opinion is worth less than nothing on COVID

So by giving people like Tice a platform on this issue, @LBC and other “news” organisations have blood on their hands…

The only thing Tice should be saying to anyone is sorry and @LBC should stop platforming these dangerous charlatans who are all about glib opinions which are contrary to the facts

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1330 ... 84609.html

[MungoBrush]

Starmer takes a courageous stand on the new Covid Tier system
By abstaining!
Well done
Good to see he's standing up for what he believes in.

[LordRaven]

Starmer takes a courageous stand on the new Covid Tier system
By abstaining!
Well done
Good to see he's standing up for what he believes in.

Agreed, not being confrontational during a worldwide pandemic is a good idea

[Cannydc]

Starmer takes a courageous stand on the new Covid Tier system
By abstaining!
Well done
Good to see he's standing up for what he believes in.

Tories must be seen to own the entire catastrophe.

Labour voting for their bill gives them succour.

Vote against, joining Tory rebels, means Labour are voting for higher death rates, and it might happen if there are enough rebels.

The third alternative, abstaining, will show true Tory colours and still allows Labour criticisms.

In reality, abstention is the only viable alternative.

[MungoBrush]

Starmer takes a courageous stand on the new Covid Tier system
By abstaining!
Well done
Good to see he's standing up for what he believes in.

Tories must be seen to own the entire catastrophe.

Labour voting for their bill gives them succour.

Vote against, joining Tory rebels, means Labour are voting for higher death rates, and it might happen if there are enough rebels.

The third alternative, abstaining, will show true Tory colours and still allows Labour criticisms.

In reality, abstention is the only viable alternative.

I seem to remember an almost identical post from you about Corbyn's non-stand on Brexit
At the time - you said that Corbyn had "played a blinder"
People like you never learn do you.

[Cannydc]

Just look it up in your creepy stalker's file, then get someone to read it to you.

[Lady Murasaki]

Starmer takes a courageous stand on the new Covid Tier system
By abstaining!
Well done
Good to see he's standing up for what he believes in.

Tories must be seen to own the entire catastrophe.

Labour voting for their bill gives them succour.

Vote against, joining Tory rebels, means Labour are voting for higher death rates, and it might happen if there are enough rebels.

The third alternative, abstaining, will show true Tory colours and still allows Labour criticisms.

In reality, abstention is the only viable alternative.

It’s unhelpful though. It makes them look a bit impotent.

[Cannydc]

Starmer takes a courageous stand on the new Covid Tier system
By abstaining!
Well done
Good to see he's standing up for what he believes in.

Tories must be seen to own the entire catastrophe.

Labour voting for their bill gives them succour.

Vote against, joining Tory rebels, means Labour are voting for higher death rates, and it might happen if there are enough rebels.

The third alternative, abstaining, will show true Tory colours and still allows Labour criticisms.

In reality, abstention is the only viable alternative.

It’s unhelpful though. It makes them look a bit impotent.

Yes, you are right, it does.

But the reality is that's exactly what they are, at least in terms of influencing policy. An 80 seat majority saw to that.

It's almost as if the country (or at least half of it) is on a determined path to self destruction. First the vote for Brexit, then to cement our descent into misery they vote in a Tory government.

America learned it's lesson after voting in a lunatic as president - we have yet to learn ours.