Coronavirus Thread Part 3

[Maddog]

Here is Reason's bias check

Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Magazine
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reason/

So for what it's worth it has a centre right bias but is highly credible - they spin but they don't lie.

They are very thorough and cite sources.

They get lumped on the right, because that's a common misconception about libertarians in general, especially by those on the left, who often are the people determining these scores. They just know libertarians aren't left, so they incorrectly label them right. The choice isn't really binary.

Ask a conservative and they think we are lefties.

[Maddog]

"Editorially, Reason takes Libertarian positions such as low taxes, free markets, low regulations, and socially liberal positions such as Marijuana legalization and pro-abortion rights. Politically, Reason falls within the Right-Center category based on economic positions (right) and socially liberal positions (Left). These positions often put Reason Magazine at odds with President Trump’s agenda regarding tariffs and free trade."


This actually explains Reason pretty well. So I don't know why it's considered right leaning, when it leans left on social issues.

[Cactus Jack]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

[drum]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Neither can many of the medical people posting online about it, they need 2 doses, same as the rest of us.
People now wanting to sue Whitty and the government. Nobody is getting sued they have all covered their arses.

[Raggamuffin]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Neither can many of the medical people posting online about it, they need 2 doses, same as the rest of us.
People now wanting to sue Whitty and the government. Nobody is getting sued they have all covered their arses.

What do they want to sue them for? I can't find anything about it.

[Raggamuffin]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Why only one dose?

The recommendation that only one dose be given - which the CMOs said could be looked at again in the spring - is related to the very rare risk of a condition called myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle.

It can cause chest pain and heart palpitations, but cases are usually mild and children recover quickly with standard treatment.

The risk is tiny after one vaccine dose and slightly higher after two, with 12 to 34 cases seen for every one million second doses.

Boys are at higher risk than girls.

And most of the benefits from the vaccine, which reduce the small risk of illness, are gained after one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58547659

[Lady Murasaki]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Maybe they don’t need the double dose because they have stronger immune systems than the elderly.

[Cactus Jack]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Neither can many of the medical people posting online about it, they need 2 doses, same as the rest of us.
People now wanting to sue Whitty and the government. Nobody is getting sued they have all covered their arses.

Quite a lot of the information being published doesn't hold much water - as an example

They're saying that school 'are not drivers of infection rates' however when you read the tables you see that those in households with school age children are 30% more likely to get covid.

I trust even those of you with no maths skills whatsoever can see that is a complete non sequitur.

[Holly]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Neither can many of the medical people posting online about it, they need 2 doses, same as the rest of us.
People now wanting to sue Whitty and the government. Nobody is getting sued they have all covered their arses.

Quite a lot of the information being published doesn't hold much water - as an example

They're saying that school 'are not drivers of infection rates' however when you read the tables you see that those in households with school age children are 30% more likely to get covid.

I trust even those of you with no maths skills whatsoever can see that is a complete non sequitur.

I guess that's because children (and adults) can still spread it even when vaccinated.

[Cactus Jack]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Neither can many of the medical people posting online about it, they need 2 doses, same as the rest of us.
People now wanting to sue Whitty and the government. Nobody is getting sued they have all covered their arses.

Quite a lot of the information being published doesn't hold much water - as an example

They're saying that school 'are not drivers of infection rates' however when you read the tables you see that those in households with school age children are 30% more likely to get covid.

I trust even those of you with no maths skills whatsoever can see that is a complete non sequitur.

I guess that's because children (and adults) can still spread it even when vaccinated.

Whilst that's true it doesn't relate to the idea that "school's are not drivers of infection rates". If that were true there would be no difference between households with school age children and those without.

[Maddog]

Interesting choice from the UK government to give teens a single dose of the pfizer vaccine.

I can't see the logic in that.

Maybe they don’t need the double dose because they have stronger immune systems than the elderly.

It's because there are more instances of serious side effects in kids, especially boys. The likelihood of that problem is much higher after the second shot..

[Cactus Jack]

Studies are showing the vaccines are safe on children as young as five.

[Raggamuffin]

Has anyone been offered a third jab? Apparently, this is different to the booster programme, and it could be the Pfizer vaccine, even if you had the AstraZeneca one before.

[drum]

Has anyone been offered a third jab? Apparently, this is different to the booster programme, and it could be the Pfizer vaccine, even if you had the AstraZeneca one before.

Not yet, only told all over 50s will get the booster.

[Raggamuffin]

Has anyone been offered a third jab? Apparently, this is different to the booster programme, and it could be the Pfizer vaccine, even if you had the AstraZeneca one before.

Not yet, only told all over 50s will get the booster.

Yes. Only certain immunocompromised people are getting a third jab (separate to the booster). I've read conflicting reports about mixing the vaccines though - still looking into that.