Coronavirus Thread Part 3

[ArchieG]

Lets talk some numbers then. We’re losing 100 odd people every day to a new disease. Nobody’s saying thats a good thing, ok? But it is nature. Other diseases are still out there, and people die from them. People rarely die of old age these days, theres always a cause of death and that just isnt one. Heart disease, cancer, stroke, dementia, etc. And flu. We dont wait for the news to tell us how many peo0e are dying of each of those, but each one kills more than covid. Should we lock down for flu? Live like monks in case of cancer? Compulsory weight loss and exercise for heart disease? Not that those things would prevent the deaths, but they woukd be reduced. Thats what we’ve done with covid, reduced it. It will never go away. Never, got that? It’s going to become another thing a doctor might have to write on your death certificate. Nobody lives forever. Lockdowns were to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed, and reduce the peak of the disease, you cannot stop people dying. It’s a pandemic. Its not a Tory pandemic, people would still die with Labour in charge. I suggest you get a grip of yourself, Jack, and realise we cannot stay in lockdown forever. We as a nation are simply not prepared to close our border for years, like New Zealand. Or North Korea, or China. I daresay a fair few Afghan refugees will have it, should we close our border to them? New Zealand has.

[Cactus Jack]

Dude there are hospitals at Code Black in August.

Code Black doesn't happen in August unless the hospital is near where there has been a major pile up on a Bank Holiday weekend

[Snookerballs]

Our Local news states that the Covid rate since lock down was lifted three weeks ago is now well above above the National Rate.
Our MP is demanding an inquiry into the figures given to the press by the NHS saying they are not in line with the Government figures that they higher than the Government figures and unnecessarily alarming .

So he is basically saying our Hospital are unable to say how many patients it has and what they are being treated for and we should believe in Government Statistics ???.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/19537155.100-new-isle-wight-covid-cases-confirmed/

[Major]

[HobbitFeet]

Lets talk some numbers then. We’re losing 100 odd people every day to a new disease. Nobody’s saying thats a good thing, ok? But it is nature. Other diseases are still out there, and people die from them. People rarely die of old age these days, theres always a cause of death and that just isnt one. Heart disease, cancer, stroke, dementia, etc. And flu. We dont wait for the news to tell us how many peo0e are dying of each of those, but each one kills more than covid. Should we lock down for flu? Live like monks in case of cancer? Compulsory weight loss and exercise for heart disease? Not that those things would prevent the deaths, but they woukd be reduced. Thats what we’ve done with covid, reduced it. It will never go away. Never, got that? It’s going to become another thing a doctor might have to write on your death certificate. Nobody lives forever. Lockdowns were to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed, and reduce the peak of the disease, you cannot stop people dying. It’s a pandemic. Its not a Tory pandemic, people would still die with Labour in charge. I suggest you get a grip of yourself, Jack, and realise we cannot stay in lockdown forever. We as a nation are simply not prepared to close our border for years, like New Zealand. Or North Korea, or China. I daresay a fair few Afghan refugees will have it, should we close our border to them? New Zealand has.

my dad is still dead oddly

he didn't need to die, don't underplay it

I'm all for a managed withdrawal from lockdown, but remember the sacrifices many have made in order for that lockdown to be lifted, they died in their masses making it imperative to find a solution

you should thank them every fucking day, not be point scoring about how irrelevant they are

[Stooo]

Lets talk some numbers then. We’re losing 100 odd people every day to a new disease. Nobody’s saying thats a good thing, ok? But it is nature. Other diseases are still out there, and people die from them. People rarely die of old age these days, theres always a cause of death and that just isnt one. Heart disease, cancer, stroke, dementia, etc. And flu. We dont wait for the news to tell us how many peo0e are dying of each of those, but each one kills more than covid. Should we lock down for flu? Live like monks in case of cancer? Compulsory weight loss and exercise for heart disease? Not that those things would prevent the deaths, but they woukd be reduced. Thats what we’ve done with covid, reduced it. It will never go away. Never, got that? It’s going to become another thing a doctor might have to write on your death certificate. Nobody lives forever. Lockdowns were to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed, and reduce the peak of the disease, you cannot stop people dying. It’s a pandemic. Its not a Tory pandemic, people would still die with Labour in charge. I suggest you get a grip of yourself, Jack, and realise we cannot stay in lockdown forever. We as a nation are simply not prepared to close our border for years, like New Zealand. Or North Korea, or China. I daresay a fair few Afghan refugees will have it, should we close our border to them? New Zealand has.

I would be pacing furiously while typing that. It's still one hell of a continually growing threat that is a price that must be paid for the economy before anything else and some people are scared rightly about what's ahead.

Don't really know what else to say

[Maddog]

Who will go to the Toowoomba site?

Any travellers from overseas or interstate hotspots while domestic restrictions apply.

Deputy Premier Steve Miles told ABC Radio Brisbane the Queensland government hoped international flights would be allowed to land at Wellcamp Airport, to minimise the risk of busing passengers from Brisbane Airport.

"We don't want to bus people out there, we want planes to land at Wellcamp Airport," he said.

"Provided the Commonwealth doesn't try and stand in our way that's exactly what we'll do, we'll land them straight at that airport."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/ ... /100410932


Whoa!

The Aussies ain't playing. This place will hold 1000 people.

Fuck that nonsense comrades..

[Cactus Jack]

Hospitals in Devon and Cornwall are reporting they're at 97%.

We're just starting the August bank holiday weekend.
Schools don't even go back for another week and the mitigrations that were in effect last year will not be in place this year
People who were fully vaccinated in March are now less than half as well protected as they were.

These are risk factors. What you think of them and how you deal with them as an individual is one thing - just as it's your decision whether you leave your house at the foot of a damn that is about to break - but it is the duty of government to at least have a plan in place to protect the people they serve.

[drum]

Hospitals in Devon and Cornwall are reporting they're at 97%.

We're just starting the August bank holiday weekend.
Schools don't even go back for another week and the mitigrations that were in effect last year will not be in place this year
People who were fully vaccinated in March are now less than half as well protected as they were.

These are risk factors. What you think of them and how you deal with them as an individual is one thing - just as it's your decision whether you leave your house at the foot of a damn that is about to break - but it is the duty of government to at least have a plan in place to protect the people they serve.

Government dont give AF

Boris Johnson ‘privately accepts’ up to 50,000 annual Covid deaths as an acceptable level

https://inews.co.uk/news/boris-johnson- ... el-1170069

[Raggamuffin]

Should we have another lockdown then?

[.SF.]

Hospitals in Devon and Cornwall are reporting they're at 97%.

We're just starting the August bank holiday weekend.
Schools don't even go back for another week and the mitigrations that were in effect last year will not be in place this year
People who were fully vaccinated in March are now less than half as well protected as they were.

These are risk factors. What you think of them and how you deal with them as an individual is one thing - just as it's your decision whether you leave your house at the foot of a damn that is about to break - but it is the duty of government to at least have a plan in place to protect the people they serve.

Government dont give AF

Boris Johnson ‘privately accepts’ up to 50,000 annual Covid deaths as an acceptable level

https://inews.co.uk/news/boris-johnson- ... el-1170069

I think the use of the word 'acceptable' in that item is a bit misleading, it can be construed to mean he's happy enough to let people die and of course some would prefer to interpret it that way. In reality the government has to set a level above which they will impose further restrictions and that's the number they decided on. One might argue that it should be lower.

[Snookerballs]

Should we have another lockdown then?

My guess is that we will have a lock down around Christmas time ,

Or the Government will play down the publicity regarding reported Covid Figures

[Stooo]

Should we have another lockdown then?

Probably. Greater restrictions are soon to be put on imports and exports at the time of year when we import most of our food and the issues will need to be covered up somehow. A lockdown will do the trick.

[Raggamuffin]

Oh well, as long as Costa stays open for takeaways ...

[Maddog]

You have an uptick in cases, but the vaccines are working. The number of deaths are nowhere near where they were in the pre vaccine days.

Time to start giving booster shots to the more susceptible.