MAJOR incident in Glasgow

[drum]

If there's accommodation available for asylum seekers, why isn't there any for British homeless people?

There is, there's enough empty homes for everyone but many long term homeless cant cope in a home any more or they get off the street and get a flat but cant furnish it. The follow on support is severely lacking.

We have plenty of homeless services up here, they and local councils will dole out sleeping bags then the next day along comes the police or cleansing to remove their possessions.

Similar when Grenfell happened, googling for available accommodations within that area, there was plenty of empty flats and houses yet some of those people are still homeless today.

[MungoBrush]

So easy to huff and puff, quoting what these people SHOULD get. How typically Tory.

If only they did - but when you hand over the responsibility of dealing with them to cheapskate companies like Mears, we hear stories of people in great pain denied ANY medical care for days, and even denied painkillers. It's all about doing it on the cheap, as Tories know full well. Food is cheap and nasty. Accommodation is cheap, poor and overcrowded. Frankly the company running this operation should face criminal charges. People have died on their watch.

But hey... huff, puff and deny away Bungle, about something that (as usual) you know nothing about. But do read this first. And don't bother shooting the messenger.

https://outline.com/vy4DSY

I've told you before
Check your sources.
Are Mears complying with the law?
Are the whingers asylum seekers who's claim had been rejected and their benefits had expired?
Check before you post.

"Are Mears complying with the law?" - Absolutely not. Hence the demonstrations against them.

Are their compliance failures dutifully ignored by the Tory-run Home Office? Of course they are, it's what Tories do.

Make up your mind will you
Have they broken the law or have they not complied with a contract provision?
Which is it?
Which conditions have they not complied with?

And if you are such an expert on goverment contracting, you would know that the contract will contain provisions and processes for non-compliance
So please provide details.

[art0hur0moh]

since when has knife crime been a major incident in glasgow?

The only thing major about it is the demands are far more sensible, and fought for for over three hundred years.

[art0hur0moh]

as usual, a perfect example of crony capitalists hiding behind policy (using mongo and Canny's sources) at the expense of those simply trying to feed their families.

[Raggamuffin]

If there's accommodation available for asylum seekers, why isn't there any for British homeless people?

There is, there's enough empty homes for everyone but many long term homeless cant cope in a home any more or they get off the street and get a flat but cant furnish it. The follow on support is severely lacking.

We have plenty of homeless services up here, they and local councils will dole out sleeping bags then the next day along comes the police or cleansing to remove their possessions.

Similar when Grenfell happened, googling for available accommodations within that area, there was plenty of empty flats and houses yet some of those people are still homeless today.

I'm pleased to hear that at least British homeless people can have somewhere to live if they want.

[Cannydc]

So easy to huff and puff, quoting what these people SHOULD get. How typically Tory.

If only they did - but when you hand over the responsibility of dealing with them to cheapskate companies like Mears, we hear stories of people in great pain denied ANY medical care for days, and even denied painkillers. It's all about doing it on the cheap, as Tories know full well. Food is cheap and nasty. Accommodation is cheap, poor and overcrowded. Frankly the company running this operation should face criminal charges. People have died on their watch.

But hey... huff, puff and deny away Bungle, about something that (as usual) you know nothing about. But do read this first. And don't bother shooting the messenger.

https://outline.com/vy4DSY

I've told you before
Check your sources.
Are Mears complying with the law?
Are the whingers asylum seekers who's claim had been rejected and their benefits had expired?
Check before you post.

"Are Mears complying with the law?" - Absolutely not. Hence the demonstrations against them.

Are their compliance failures dutifully ignored by the Tory-run Home Office? Of course they are, it's what Tories do.

Make up your mind will you
Have they broken the law or have they not complied with a contract provision?
Which is it?
Which conditions have they not complied with?

And if you are such an expert on goverment contracting, you would know that the contract will contain provisions and processes for non-compliance
So please provide details.

I already have. If your reading problem is still with you, I also provided a link which might help.

Do you really believe that the government contract will include provision of inedible food, denial of medical services and provision of dangerously overcrowded living conditions?

Come to think of it, if written by a Tory run department, it probably does.

[Raggamuffin]

They don't like the way food is cooked apparently.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18497 ... ed-hotels/

[drum]

Here's a little bit about the police officer who got stabbed.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/g ... d=msedgdhp

[Cannydc]

their food is provided and they lose their £5.30 daily, which means they often cannot top up their phones to contact lawyers and family, or buy fresh fruit or sanitary products.

And we, the 5th richest country in the world, are reduced to this.

[drum]

They don't like the way food is cooked apparently.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18497 ... ed-hotels/

If we were in a hotel or restaurant and didn't like how our food was cooked we would send it back.
I notice the article said that some of the service users did ask for their food to be cooked a different way.

They also lost the £35 a week they had before being moved to these hotels so things like topping up phones or personal emergencies wouldn't be met. We're only being told snippets of what's happening but we should find out more as the days go on.

[drum]

their food is provided and they lose their £5.30 daily, which means they often cannot top up their phones to contact lawyers and family, or buy fresh fruit or sanitary products.

And we, the 5th richest country in the world, are reduced to this.

Id like to know why the money was stopped, surely its difficult enough coming to a new country, learning new languages and new ways. Then to be removed from the home they gave you initially to be put into a hotel with no funds at all. As asylum seekers they will all be going through the processes to become british citizens, not an easy task, especially with todays attitudes. We already know the Mears Group have lied to government , what else have they lied about and where is the money they get to help support these people.

[MungoBrush]

So easy to huff and puff, quoting what these people SHOULD get. How typically Tory.

If only they did - but when you hand over the responsibility of dealing with them to cheapskate companies like Mears, we hear stories of people in great pain denied ANY medical care for days, and even denied painkillers. It's all about doing it on the cheap, as Tories know full well. Food is cheap and nasty. Accommodation is cheap, poor and overcrowded. Frankly the company running this operation should face criminal charges. People have died on their watch.

But hey... huff, puff and deny away Bungle, about something that (as usual) you know nothing about. But do read this first. And don't bother shooting the messenger.

https://outline.com/vy4DSY

I've told you before
Check your sources.
Are Mears complying with the law?
Are the whingers asylum seekers who's claim had been rejected and their benefits had expired?
Check before you post.

"Are Mears complying with the law?" - Absolutely not. Hence the demonstrations against them.

Are their compliance failures dutifully ignored by the Tory-run Home Office? Of course they are, it's what Tories do.

Make up your mind will you
Have they broken the law or have they not complied with a contract provision?
Which is it?
Which conditions have they not complied with?

And if you are such an expert on goverment contracting, you would know that the contract will contain provisions and processes for non-compliance
So please provide details.

I already have. If your reading problem is still with you, I also provided a link which might help.

Do you really believe that the government contract will include provision of inedible food, denial of medical services and provision of dangerously overcrowded living conditions?

Come to think of it, if written by a Tory run department, it probably does.

They were moved into hotel accommodation for their own safety during Covid.
And I'm sure that the food is much better in the country where they fled from

Don't you understand how it works?
Refugees are given temporary accomodation and an allowance for food while their application is processed.
Whilst in the hotel, food is provided so they dont get the allowance.
If they pass, then they are on their own - just like anyone else in this country.
If they fail they are given 28 days to leave
And in that 28 days they continue to get accomodation and financial support.
If they dont leave - they are deported.

It's the same process throughout the EU

You got a problem with that?

[Cannydc]

their food is provided and they lose their £5.30 daily, which means they often cannot top up their phones to contact lawyers and family, or buy fresh fruit or sanitary products.

And we, the 5th richest country in the world, are reduced to this.

Id like to know why the money was stopped, surely its difficult enough coming to a new country, learning new languages and new ways. Then to be removed from the home they gave you initially to be put into a hotel with no funds at all. As asylum seekers they will all be going through the processes to become british citizens, not an easy task, especially with todays attitudes. We already know the Mears Group have lied to government , what else have they lied about and where is the money they get to help support these people.

It's part of a pattern - we've seen it with Windrush, with Grenfell, with the so-called "Hostile Environment Policy".

It's Tory dog-whistle politics at its very worst.

Cruel. Unnecessary. And so un-British.

[MungoBrush]

their food is provided and they lose their £5.30 daily, which means they often cannot top up their phones to contact lawyers and family, or buy fresh fruit or sanitary products.

And we, the 5th richest country in the world, are reduced to this.

Id like to know why the money was stopped,

The daily allowance is for food
When they were moved into hotel, food was provided, so the allowance was used to pay for the meals.

It's standard procedure throughout the EU
Nothing to do with the Tories
Cannydc is bullshitting again.

[Raggamuffin]

their food is provided and they lose their £5.30 daily, which means they often cannot top up their phones to contact lawyers and family, or buy fresh fruit or sanitary products.

And we, the 5th richest country in the world, are reduced to this.

Id like to know why the money was stopped, surely its difficult enough coming to a new country, learning new languages and new ways. Then to be removed from the home they gave you initially to be put into a hotel with no funds at all. As asylum seekers they will all be going through the processes to become british citizens, not an easy task, especially with todays attitudes. We already know the Mears Group have lied to government , what else have they lied about and where is the money they get to help support these people.

They won't necessarily become British citizens - their claims might fail.