The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.
Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.
Rocthedog wrote:Labour meet today to discuss their Manifesto, Knock your socks off says Enemy Corbyn. Cannot wait. Promise, Promise, Promise, A great deal of borrowing. Free Internet, Loads and loads more money going to be spread around. Their whole fucking existence and their Huge promises that will not be kept at all. Is fucking laughable. Hurry on their manifesto I want a good laugh. Bankruptcy faces the UK under this fucking lot. Jeeze.
Cannydc wrote:The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.
Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.
Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed. Costed correctly no way
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Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html
Cannydc wrote:The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.
Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.
Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.
Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html
LordRaven wrote:Cannydc wrote:The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.
Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.
Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.
Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html
Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?
Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.
I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.
It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.
Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Cannydc wrote:The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.
Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.
Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.
Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html
Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?
Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.
I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.
It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.
Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.
The nationalised utilities on the continent are doing so well they even make money out of our privatised ones.
LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Cannydc wrote:The nationalisation of water, energy grids and the Royal Mail would save UK households £7.8bn a year and pay for itself within seven years, according to new academic research.
Professor Hall calculates that the average household would be £142 better off a year as a result of nationalising energy grids, and £113 better off if English water companies were publicly owned.
Labour's manifesto will be out in good time to be properly scrutinised and will, as usual, be fully costed.
Compare and contrast to the Tory manifesto, which will be released as late as possible to avoid scrutiny, and like in 2017 won't be costed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 03636.html
Who is costing Labour's manifesto? Free universal broadband for all inc businesses? That is a big cost, how exactly will that be paid for? I look forward to hearing. Great idea! Who wouldn't want that?
Your professor is putting a sunny spin on nationalisation, I guess that that is what he is prone to do as he has been employed to do just that, but we all know what happens to nationalised industries.
I often ask what nationalised industry "made a profit and was a roaring success" and many shout "The NHS" when we all know that the NHS is incapable of and not designed to make a profit because of its very nature and it will always be a huge cost, but that is a price worth paying for free healthcare.
It's a shame that nationalisation leads to "big firm, they can afford it" attitudes that causes failure but that is what happens and then waste is covered by pumping more and more money into organisations that are run at a cost to taxpayers. Which just fucks the country.
Or it could be the case that current generations recognise this and are willing to be accountable and it might perhaps work but we won't know unless it happens.
The nationalised utilities on the continent are doing so well they even make money out of our privatised ones.
Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"
Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"
Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.
Fletch wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"
Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.
Raven, and right wing people like him, don't get the concept of a public service. They think everything and someone at least should be making money out of necessities. Other names for that are cartels, monopolies or mafia behaviour.
Rocthedog wrote:Labour meet today to discuss their Manifesto, Knock your socks off says Enemy Corbyn. Cannot wait. Promise, Promise, Promise, A great deal of borrowing. Free Internet, Loads and loads more money going to be spread around. Their whole fucking existence and their Huge promises that will not be kept at all. Is fucking laughable. Hurry on their manifesto I want a good laugh. Bankruptcy faces the UK under this fucking lot. Jeeze.
McAz wrote:Fletch wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Wrong answer! The question was "name a British Nationalised Industry that made a profit?"
Why do they have to make money?
Primarily they provide a service and breaking even is often good enough.
Raven, and right wing people like him, don't get the concept of a public service. They think everything and someone at least should be making money out of necessities. Other names for that are cartels, monopolies or mafia behaviour.
Even when they served in a non-profit making collective enterprise.
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