PROJECT FEAR - OR PROJECT REALITY ?

[McAz]

I may be overthinking this, but if the EU put an embargo on goods to the UK, would it not affect EU Producers of goods,

How would they get around that problem ?

There is no threat of an embargo either way, and never has been.

The 3 big issues will be tariffs on UK goods entering the EU as we will be a '3rd country', delays to cross-channel shipments due to extra paperwork and checks, and a widening gap of standards which will eventually lead to UK manufacturers being forced to accept EU rules to export there. Currently standards are aligned, of course, but if we drop our production standards in the event of, say, a trade deal with the US the EU won't accept those goods.

So there will not be any worries regarding shortage of products coming to this Country from the EU
Cross Channel shipment delays could work both ways affecting the EU economy .

The shortages mooted would be caused by delays at importing ports, e.g. Dover. These may well be in the order of a week or two. Many imported medicines don't have that kind of shelf life, nor do radio isotopes used for treating cancer. Fresh food is also severely threatened (salad, fruit, veg) as well as fish, flowers and other items that will perish.

The EU economy will be affected, but 50% of our exports go there, where as about 8% of the EU's goods and services exports to EU and non-EU countries went to the UK in 2016. And they share that 8% between 27 countries.

The idea that they need us as much as we need them is laughable, but still put about by some.

There is a movement in Europe that is lobbying the E.U. parliament to stop acting like cunts and give a better deal, because they are crapping it about how their businesses will be affected by a no deal.
Let’s just call the stupid bloody thing off, it’s caused so much damage already and only thick cunts still want it

The 27 other EU states aren't acting like cunts, Johnson is.

No-deal or remain - nothing else.

[Fletch]

I may be overthinking this, but if the EU put an embargo on goods to the UK, would it not affect EU Producers of goods,

How would they get around that problem ?

There is no threat of an embargo either way, and never has been.

The 3 big issues will be tariffs on UK goods entering the EU as we will be a '3rd country', delays to cross-channel shipments due to extra paperwork and checks, and a widening gap of standards which will eventually lead to UK manufacturers being forced to accept EU rules to export there. Currently standards are aligned, of course, but if we drop our production standards in the event of, say, a trade deal with the US the EU won't accept those goods.

So there will not be any worries regarding shortage of products coming to this Country from the EU
Cross Channel shipment delays could work both ways affecting the EU economy .

The shortages mooted would be caused by delays at importing ports, e.g. Dover. These may well be in the order of a week or two. Many imported medicines don't have that kind of shelf life, nor do radio isotopes used for treating cancer. Fresh food is also severely threatened (salad, fruit, veg) as well as fish, flowers and other items that will perish.

The EU economy will be affected, but 50% of our exports go there, where as about 8% of the EU's goods and services exports to EU and non-EU countries went to the UK in 2016. And they share that 8% between 27 countries.

The idea that they need us as much as we need them is laughable, but still put about by some.

Why will lorries be delayed for up to a week and why the delay at all for perishable goods, which already enjoy priority clearance?

[Cannydc]

Vast changes to required paperwork and the checking thereof.

Queues will build quickly.

It's a long read, and yes, I Googled to find the correct page.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

[Snookerballs]

I may be overthinking this, but if the EU put an embargo on goods to the UK, would it not affect EU Producers of goods,

How would they get around that problem ?

There is no threat of an embargo either way, and never has been.

The 3 big issues will be tariffs on UK goods entering the EU as we will be a '3rd country', delays to cross-channel shipments due to extra paperwork and checks, and a widening gap of standards which will eventually lead to UK manufacturers being forced to accept EU rules to export there. Currently standards are aligned, of course, but if we drop our production standards in the event of, say, a trade deal with the US the EU won't accept those goods.

So there will not be any worries regarding shortage of products coming to this Country from the EU
Cross Channel shipment delays could work both ways affecting the EU economy .

The shortages mooted would be caused by delays at importing ports, e.g. Dover. These may well be in the order of a week or two. Many imported medicines don't have that kind of shelf life, nor do radio isotopes used for treating cancer. Fresh food is also severely threatened (salad, fruit, veg) as well as fish, flowers and other items that will perish.

The EU economy will be affected, but 50% of our exports go there, where as about 8% of the EU's goods and services exports to EU and non-EU countries went to the UK in 2016. And they share that 8% between 27 countries.

The idea that they need us as much as we need them is laughable, but still put about by some.

Checking on UK exports and imports from the EU, all the figures I find are that we import more goods from the EU than we export

[McAz]

Bookmakers are taking bets on what the Government will ration first after Brexit

Fuel is the favourite, at 4/1, followed by Milk at 11/1.

Avocados are in third place at 13/1.

Further down the list, a white wine clampdown is 33/1. Gin rationing is priced at 50/1 and chicken at 66/1.

(Mirror via MSN)



"Whale meat again"

[Fletch]

Vast changes to required paperwork and the checking thereof.

Queues will build quickly.

It's a long read, and yes, I Googled to find the correct page.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

You’ll need to follow most of the same rules as traders importing goods with the rest of the world.

When your goods arrive

Make your customs declaration if you’re doing this yourself. You’ll need to use the UK Trade Tariff volume 3 to help you complete the declaration.

If you’re using a haulage company, confirm with them that you’ve made a customs declaration before departure by giving them either your movement reference or EORI number.

You’ll need to pay customs duty even if you decide to account for import VAT on your VAT Return. If you’re a UK VAT-registered importer you can account for import VAT on your VAT Return rather than pay when, or soon after, goods arrive at the UK border. There will also be changes to the way you pay or reclaim VAT if the UK leaves EU-wide VAT IT systems.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

The rest is stuff to do, or make sure your third party contractor does, before the stuff even gets there.

If you bring goods into the UK from the EU there are actions you should take before and after you’ve imported the goods. This applies to:

importers
freight forwarders
fast parcel operators
customs agents
traders who move their own goods

But perishable goods still get priority and this sort of things happens all the time from all countries outside the EU and in ports and airports all over the country.

What is the delay for?

[McAz]

What is the delay for?

Possibly because 54% of all UK imports are from the EU and will no longer be fast-tracked.

[Fletch]

Customs Clearance

At John Good, our experienced teams handle the completion of export and import customs formalities, such as NES customs entry, intrastat and CFSP Messaging, at all main UK ports to ensure your consignment gets through the process as quickly as possible. We also offer advice on importation, taxation and clearance procedures, to ensure your shipments clear customs swiftly and efficiently.

We are AEO (Authorised Economic Operator) accredited, which means consignments are fast-tracked through customs controls, and when AEO consignments are selected by customs for examination or inspection, they receive priority over non-AEOs, making the whole shipping process run more smoothly and efficiently.

https://www.johngood.co.uk/services/fre ... n-customs/

Foodstuffs

GWT Import & Export Specialists Ltd have been shipping ambient & refrigerated food products over 20 years by air, sea, and road. We offer comprehensive worldwide Foodstuffs logistics services with complete documentary assistance, Fast Transits and a highly personalised level of service.

Our vastly experienced team have a detailed understanding of the logistical issues of these urgent foodstuff shipments and we ensure that they reach the consumer on time and with precise temperature control, be it by air-freight, refrigerated container or refrigerated truck.

https://gwtimpex.co.uk/industries/foodstuffs/

Many other companies doing the same.

[Fletch]

What is the delay for?

Possibly because 54% of all UK imports are from the EU and will no longer be fast-tracked.

Perishable goods will be wherever they are from. Customs knows that and have always done fast tracking for it.

[Stooo]

Vast changes to required paperwork and the checking thereof.

Queues will build quickly.

It's a long read, and yes, I Googled to find the correct page.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

You’ll need to follow most of the same rules as traders importing goods with the rest of the world.

When your goods arrive

Make your customs declaration if you’re doing this yourself. You’ll need to use the UK Trade Tariff volume 3 to help you complete the declaration.

If you’re using a haulage company, confirm with them that you’ve made a customs declaration before departure by giving them either your movement reference or EORI number.

You’ll need to pay customs duty even if you decide to account for import VAT on your VAT Return. If you’re a UK VAT-registered importer you can account for import VAT on your VAT Return rather than pay when, or soon after, goods arrive at the UK border. There will also be changes to the way you pay or reclaim VAT if the UK leaves EU-wide VAT IT systems.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

The rest is stuff to do, or make sure your third party contractor does, before the stuff even gets there.

If you bring goods into the UK from the EU there are actions you should take before and after you’ve imported the goods. This applies to:

importers
freight forwarders
fast parcel operators
customs agents
traders who move their own goods

But perishable goods still get priority and this sort of things happens all the time from all countries outside the EU and in ports and airports all over the country.

What is the delay for?

Heh, you really have no idea, do you?

[Stooo]

What is the delay for?

Possibly because 54% of all UK imports are from the EU and will no longer be fast-tracked.

Permissible goods will be wherever they are from. Customs knows that and have always done fast tracking for it.

Customs, fast track

Seriously mate...

[Ray of Sunshine]

Have you spoken to either of them?

No, I meant speaking German.

And it's far too hard to learn which gender every noun is, especially when there's three, and clocks and tables and ceiling fans or whatever don't have genders anyway.

[Fletch]

Vast changes to required paperwork and the checking thereof.

Queues will build quickly.

It's a long read, and yes, I Googled to find the correct page.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

You’ll need to follow most of the same rules as traders importing goods with the rest of the world.

When your goods arrive

Make your customs declaration if you’re doing this yourself. You’ll need to use the UK Trade Tariff volume 3 to help you complete the declaration.

If you’re using a haulage company, confirm with them that you’ve made a customs declaration before departure by giving them either your movement reference or EORI number.

You’ll need to pay customs duty even if you decide to account for import VAT on your VAT Return. If you’re a UK VAT-registered importer you can account for import VAT on your VAT Return rather than pay when, or soon after, goods arrive at the UK border. There will also be changes to the way you pay or reclaim VAT if the UK leaves EU-wide VAT IT systems.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/trading-and ... th-no-deal

The rest is stuff to do, or make sure your third party contractor does, before the stuff even gets there.

If you bring goods into the UK from the EU there are actions you should take before and after you’ve imported the goods. This applies to:

importers
freight forwarders
fast parcel operators
customs agents
traders who move their own goods

But perishable goods still get priority and this sort of things happens all the time from all countries outside the EU and in ports and airports all over the country.

What is the delay for?

Heh, you really have no idea, do you?

That's direct from the government site that canny linked to!

[Ray of Sunshine]

If at first you don't succeed, then give up cos it's too hard.

Remainers are nesh.

[McAz]

What is the delay for?

Possibly because 54% of all UK imports are from the EU and will no longer be fast-tracked.

Perishable goods will be wherever they are from. Customs knows that and have always done fast tracking for it.

Ah, so no delays in the event of hard-brexit - thanks for the reassurance.