Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:31 pm

So Viper you believe that money is not borrowed into circulation as units of debt as admitted to by the BoE?
You don't believe money is created out of thin air by the banks then loaned to you me the worlds governments etc at interest?
If that's the case please explain how money is created why governments have to borrow it at interest and which countries still create and issue their own money interest and debt free.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:33 pm

Fletch wrote:A Conspiracy Theory that became a “Conspiracy Fact”: The CIA, Afghanistan’s Poppy Fields and America’s Growing Heroin Epidemic

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https://www.globalresearch.ca/a-conspir ... ic/5533673

When did US go in to Afghanistan and who was the enemy? :wurms:

England was in control of the worlds opium supply for two hundred years.
The Dutch were also involved.
The Rothschilds made a fortune from it.
Conspiracy Viper?
You need to Google THE OPIUM WARS led by the East India Company.
It's how we got Honk Kong off the Chinese.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Fletch » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:35 pm

And HSBC was the laundering bank of choice.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Lady Murasaki » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:37 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Cameron wasn't pm when the government handed over control of rates.

It was a brief explanation of being connected.
Do you really think governments aren't working for people higher up?


CTs seem to be the new religion. When something can't be explained stick a conspiracy on it, then it allllll makes sense.

Or....it was the labour govts fault the recession happened. Let's learn from it.

Keeping things simple is best sometimes.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Fletch » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:39 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:So Viper you believe that money is not borrowed into circulation as units of debt as admitted to by the BoE?
You don't believe money is created out of thin air by the banks then loaned to you me the worlds governments etc at interest?
If that's the case please explain how money is created why governments have to borrow it at interest and which countries still create and issue their own money interest and debt free.


I've asked sceptics that very question many a time Jack and they disappear. Let's hope viper isn't so unsure of himself as to avoid answering.

Or any others for that matter.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:52 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Cameron wasn't pm when the government handed over control of rates.

It was a brief explanation of being connected.
Do you really think governments aren't working for people higher up?


CTs seem to be the new religion. When something can't be explained stick a conspiracy on it, then it allllll makes sense.

Or....it was the labour govts fault the recession happened. Let's learn from it.

Keeping things simple is best sometimes.

It's nothing like that.
People who have followed things or certain reporters say like John Pilger know stuff that has been printed published but the MSM refuse to touch it because it upsets agendas.
For example I was fascinated by the Libyan revolution that put paid to the British the Yanks and the French and Italians looting Libya of vast welth day after day.
Libya was because of the west's behaviour one of the poorest countries on earth with starving bare foot children.
The colonel said enough was enough and built an amazingly wealthy nation.
When the colonel said this is not the Libyan people this is alCIAda backed by the west it turned out he was right.
He was that confident he dished out a million Kalashnikovs to the people and endless bullets to fight to save the country but the people were no match for cruise missiles coming in from American ships.
The truth but not the MSM government banking agenda.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Fletch » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:58 pm

Bankers have done a good job of creating money
Radical proposals to give sole responsibility to governments for credit and money creation - “100 per cent reserve banking” - are very dangerous

Oddly, the further the banking crisis recedes, the more radical these proposals seem to become. The idea of “100 per cent reserve banking” is one such suggestion. It’s complicated, but essentially it involves stripping private bankers of their power to create money, and giving sole responsibility for this function to governments. The idea cannot yet be called mainstream, but thanks to the work of a couple of economists at the International Monetary Fund, Jaromir Benes and Michael Kumhof, it has developed a considerable following in academia and beyond. In Britain, it has even spawned its own think tank, Positive Money.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... money.html

Instead of some people yelling conspiracy theory, tell us why the BoE and the Telegraph, amongst others, are wrong and you're right? :dunno:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:02 pm

At some point people have to realise they swim through a sea of bullshit everyday whatever country they live in.
It's called propaganda and is used by those who own and run society to keep control.
I remember the Yanks and the main stream media in general taking the piss out of Russian propaganda used on the population at home being so obvious and simplistic.
The reply was yes indeed it was simplistic.
Simplistic to the point the simplest people could see it a mile off and laugh at it.
But they pointed out that western peoples especially the Americans believed they weren't bombarded with propaganda in their open and free societies when nothing could be further from the truth.
The reality was it was so subtle it was far more powerful on the mind than anything they had to put up with.
Complte with the backing of Holywood.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:06 pm

Ct walls of text. :bored:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:06 pm

There is one question which will have system-serving politicians and economists running for cover: why can’t the British government through its Treasury issue interest free money based upon the common wealth and integrity of this country - worth trillions?
Why do our politicians go straight to the private bankers, who simply create money completely out of thin air ... just figures on a computer screen ... and when this ‘money’, or more accurately this ‘nothingness’, is received by our government, we, as taxpayers, start paying the exorbitant interest which is currently costing the British people in real money at least £125,000,000 a day, or more than £44,000,000,000 a year?

The answer, of course, is very simple and to the point.

There is absolutely nothing to prevent the British Government, or indeed any sovereign nation, from issuing its own interest free pap>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/case-greenback-pound
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:07 pm

Viper wrote:Ct walls of text. :bored:

So you can't answer a single thing or even admit that yes many CT's turn out to be the truth and people like you are more often than not left in the dust.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Lady Murasaki » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:11 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Cameron wasn't pm when the government handed over control of rates.

It was a brief explanation of being connected.
Do you really think governments aren't working for people higher up?


CTs seem to be the new religion. When something can't be explained stick a conspiracy on it, then it allllll makes sense.

Or....it was the labour govts fault the recession happened. Let's learn from it.

Keeping things simple is best sometimes.

It's nothing like that.
People who have followed things or certain reporters say like John Pilger know stuff that has been printed published but the MSM refuse to touch it because it upsets agendas.
For example I was fascinated by the Libyan revolution that put paid to the British the Yanks and the French and Italians looting Libya of vast welth day after day.
Libya was because of the west's behaviour one of the poorest countries on earth with starving bare foot children.
The colonel said enough was enough and built an amazingly wealthy nation.
When the colonel said this is not the Libyan people this is alCIAda backed by the west it turned out he was right.
He was that confident he dished out a million Kalashnikovs to the people and endless bullets to fight to save the country but the people were no match for cruise missiles coming in from American ships.
The truth but not the MSM government banking agenda.


I agree that things aren't always told to us in an honest or uncensored way but you guys bang on about things that just goes way off the point and makes people loose interest. Talking down to people doesn't help, not you so much Jack, the other patronising, sexist git.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:11 pm

Viper wrote:Ct walls of text. :bored:


Remember folks...
Viper wrote:Try and not be such a simpleton. The key to understanding most things is simple.

...try not to overwhelm the poor dear. :shake head:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:13 pm

Series: Bring Back The Bradbury Pound

https://www.ukcolumn.org/bring-back-the-bradbury
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Lady Murasaki » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:13 pm

McAz wrote:
Viper wrote:Ct walls of text. :bored:


Remember folks...
Viper wrote:Try and not be such a simpleton. The key to understanding most things is simple.

...try not to overwhelm the poor dear. :shake head:


I know he's a dork but he has a point about keeping things simpler than posting walls of text. It's lazy, anyone can do that.
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