Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

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A Russian jet has been shot down after reportedly violating Turkish airspace near the Syrian border.

The jet's pilot was warned before being shot down, according to a Turkish military source.

However, Russia's defence ministry has said the Su-24 jet did not violate Turkish airspace, the RIA news agency said.

Is Turkey obeying it's NATO masters and warning Russia off from destroying the west's terrorists assets?
This could now get very messy.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/turkey-shoots-down-russian-jet-near-border/ar-BBnndyU?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=mailsignoutmd

[Guest]

I predict war.... oh wait

[Guest]

NATO is harbouring the Islamic State

A senior Western official familiar with a large cache of intelligence obtained this summer from a major raid on an ISIS safehouse told the Guardian that “direct dealings between Turkish officials and ranking ISIS members was now ‘undeniable.’”

The same official confirmed that Turkey, a longstanding member of NATO, is not just supporting ISIS, but also other jihadist groups, including Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria. “The distinctions they draw [with other opposition groups] are thin indeed,” said the official. “There is no doubt at all that they militarily cooperate with both.”

In a rare insight into this brazen state-sponsorship of ISIS, a year ago Newsweek reported the testimony of a former ISIS communications technician, who had travelled to Syria to fight the regime of Bashir al-Assad.

The former ISIS fighter told Newsweek that Turkey was allowing ISIS trucks from Raqqa to cross the “border, through Turkey and then back across the border to attack Syrian Kurds in the city of Serekaniye in northern Syria in February.” ISIS militants would freely travel “through Turkey in a convoy of trucks,” and stop “at safehouses along the way.”

The former ISIS communication technician also admitted that he would routinely “connect ISIS field captains and commanders from Syria with people in Turkey on innumerable occasions,” adding that “the people they talked to were Turkish officials… ISIS commanders told us to fear nothing at all because there was full cooperation with the Turks.”

In January, authenticated official documents of the Turkish military were leaked online, showing that Turkey’s intelligence services had been caught in Adana by military officers transporting missiles, mortars and anti-aircraft ammunition via truck “to the al-Qaeda terror organisation” in Syria.

According to other ISIS suspects facing trial in Turkey, the Turkish national military intelligence organization (MIT) had begun smuggling arms, including NATO weapons to jihadist groups in Syria as early as 2011.

The allegations have been corroborated by a prosecutor and court testimony of Turkish military police officers, who confirmed that Turkish intelligence was delivering arms to Syrian jihadists from 2013 to 2014.

Much more on https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence ... .47xes9y7l

To bear in mind when anybody starts cheering for NATO to go up against Russia.

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Let's see if I connected the dots correctly ... Turkish leader Ergodan's brother is the leader of the ISIS oil for food and weapons program and getting nice big kickbacks. Russia starts blowing up 1000s of oil tankers and refineries with SU-24 bombers. Ergodan's brothers goes from cash rich to cash poor. Ergodan steps in and drops an SU-24 from the sky.

Got it.

Comment from here http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... der?page=5

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Turkey requested extraordinary @NATO council meeting to inform members of downing of Russian jet. Meeting will happen at 5pm Brussels time.

https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/statu ... 2673878016

(Defence editor of the Times)

Someone's panicking, rightly so.

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A Russian jet has been shot down after reportedly violating Turkish airspace near the Syrian border.

The jet's pilot was warned before being shot down, according to a Turkish military source.

However, Russia's defence ministry has said the Su-24 jet did not violate Turkish airspace, the RIA news agency said.

Is Turkey obeying it's NATO masters and warning Russia off from destroying the west's terrorists assets?
This could now get very messy.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/turkey-shoots-down-russian-jet-near-border/ar-BBnndyU?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=mailsignoutmd

Jack, was your source MSM?
You know, what you are always on here telling people not to believe.
Is globalresearch down then sweetheart? awwwwwww

[Maddog]

Welcome to the middle east, Vlad. That's 2 Russian planes that have come down.

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A Russian jet has been shot down after reportedly violating Turkish airspace near the Syrian border.

The jet's pilot was warned before being shot down, according to a Turkish military source.

However, Russia's defence ministry has said the Su-24 jet did not violate Turkish airspace, the RIA news agency said.

Is Turkey obeying it's NATO masters and warning Russia off from destroying the west's terrorists assets?
This could now get very messy.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/turkey-shoots-down-russian-jet-near-border/ar-BBnndyU?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=mailsignoutmd

Jack, was your source MSM?
You know, what you are always on here telling people not to believe.
Is global research down then sweetheart? awwwwwww

Look little puppy I supply links daily from the MSM but you who contribute nothing more than following me around to yelp and yap wouldn't notice that or even understand why.

[Guest]

Welcome to the middle east, Vlad. That's 2 Russian planes that have come down.

yep, NATO and it's allies are untrustworthy cunts.

Expect to see full public declaration of all Turkey involvement in supporting and arming isis and co. To include oil trafficking by Erdogen's son's company and free passage across it's border for anyone and anything related to the terrorists.

Don't be surprised if the Turkey Syria border is cleared of terrorists and the border crossing closed, by big craters.

After that, anyone's guess.

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Here you go little puppy ....

NATO Calls Emergency Meeting After Russian Su-24 Downed Over Syria
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151124/1030651526/nato-meeting-russia-syria-su24-crash.html?utm_source=short_direct&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=agFy&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

[Guest]

A Russian jet has been shot down after reportedly violating Turkish airspace near the Syrian border.

The jet's pilot was warned before being shot down, according to a Turkish military source.

However, Russia's defence ministry has said the Su-24 jet did not violate Turkish airspace, the RIA news agency said.

Is Turkey obeying it's NATO masters and warning Russia off from destroying the west's terrorists assets?
This could now get very messy.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/turkey-shoots-down-russian-jet-near-border/ar-BBnndyU?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=mailsignoutmd

Jack, was your source MSM?
You know, what you are always on here telling people not to believe.
Is global research down then sweetheart? awwwwwww

Look little puppy I supply links daily from the MSM but you who contribute nothing more than following me around to yelp and yap wouldn't notice that or even understand why.

WHOA there old timer, I'm not cactus.

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Last month, a ‘deconfliction’ contact center was set-up precisely to avoid this very situation. In this way, this has all the hallmarks of a premeditated act of aggression by Turkey designed to break-up cooperation between Russia, France and other NATO countries, and also to assert Turkey’s role as a protector of the Pro-Turkish, al Nusra Front and other armed insurgents in the north of Syria.

NATO’s Provocative Policy

Turkey is well-aware that Russia is now the leading member of the international coalition doing real damage to terrorist forces by airstrikes against ISIS and al Qaeda in Syria, and seeing that ISIS does not have an air force of its own – it makes no sense why Turkey would want to shoot down a Russian plane and risk an international incident – unless it has become a rogue geopolitical actor, or more likely – this dangerous stunt was in fact green-lighted by either the US, or NATO command in Brussels. NATO previously hawkish rhetoric towards Russia last month over alleged violations of Turkish air space only indicates that their agenda is quiet clearly an aggressive one. Another tense incident last month saw Turkey accuse Russia of violating its airspace. Turkey calmed down quickly over it, but NATO then seized on the incident in order to escalate tensions with Russia who had just recently entered the conflict by invitation of the Syrian government.

Regardless of how you look at this incident, the fact that Turkey is a NATO member – and would still knowingly shoot down a Russian fighter jet involved in operations against ISIS and al Nusra (al Qaeda) terrorists – is defacto proof that Turkey is not only coordinating with terrorist paramilitary forces on the ground, but is effectively providing counter air defense for the terrorist forces on the ground. In this way, Turkey is attempting to sabotage the fight against ISIS terrorists in Syria.

Evidence suggests that this is what the US-led ‘Coalition’ is actually doing, via a likely CIA arms-running rat-line running out of Ukraine. Oriental Review reported 48 hrs ago:

“The fact that the ISIS infrastructure in Syria and Iraq is absolutely vulnerable to the >>>>>>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/natos-provocative-policy-russian-su-24-fighter-bomber-shot-down-by-turkey-on-syrian-border/5491103

Russia have been doing serious damage to ISIS and other terrorists. In fact they are the only force that have been doing damage to the terrorists and NATO/America seem determined to put a stop to it.

[Maddog]

Welcome to the middle east, Vlad. That's 2 Russian planes that have come down.

yep, NATO and it's allies are untrustworthy cunts.

Expect to see full public declaration of all Turkey involvement in supporting and arming isis and co. To include oil trafficking by Erdogen's son's company and free passage across it's border for anyone and anything related to the terrorists.

Don't be surprised if the Turkey Syria border is cleared of terrorists and the border crossing closed, by big craters.

After that, anyone's guess.

Can't trust anyone over there can you?

[Guest]

Last month, a ‘deconfliction’ contact center was set-up precisely to avoid this very situation. In this way, this has all the hallmarks of a premeditated act of aggression by Turkey designed to break-up cooperation between Russia, France and other NATO countries, and also to assert Turkey’s role as a protector of the Pro-Turkish, al Nusra Front and other armed insurgents in the north of Syria.

NATO’s Provocative Policy

Turkey is well-aware that Russia is now the leading member of the international coalition doing real damage to terrorist forces by airstrikes against ISIS and al Qaeda in Syria, and seeing that ISIS does not have an air force of its own – it makes no sense why Turkey would want to shoot down a Russian plane and risk an international incident – unless it has become a rogue geopolitical actor, or more likely – this dangerous stunt was in fact green-lighted by either the US, or NATO command in Brussels. NATO previously hawkish rhetoric towards Russia last month over alleged violations of Turkish air space only indicates that their agenda is quiet clearly an aggressive one. Another tense incident last month saw Turkey accuse Russia of violating its airspace. Turkey calmed down quickly over it, but NATO then seized on the incident in order to escalate tensions with Russia who had just recently entered the conflict by invitation of the Syrian government.

Regardless of how you look at this incident, the fact that Turkey is a NATO member – and would still knowingly shoot down a Russian fighter jet involved in operations against ISIS and al Nusra (al Qaeda) terrorists – is defacto proof that Turkey is not only coordinating with terrorist paramilitary forces on the ground, but is effectively providing counter air defense for the terrorist forces on the ground. In this way, Turkey is attempting to sabotage the fight against ISIS terrorists in Syria.

Evidence suggests that this is what the US-led ‘Coalition’ is actually doing, via a likely CIA arms-running rat-line running out of Ukraine. Oriental Review reported 48 hrs ago:

“The fact that the ISIS infrastructure in Syria and Iraq is absolutely vulnerable to the >>>>>>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/natos-provocative-policy-russian-su-24-fighter-bomber-shot-down-by-turkey-on-syrian-border/5491103

Russia have been doing serious damage to ISIS and other terrorists. In fact they are the only force that have been doing damage to the terrorists and NATO/America seem determined to put a stop to it.

As some of us have been saying for a very long time now. isis is US and friends.

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America’s “Anti-ISIS Coalition” Never existed. There is No “US-led war on ISIS”

The problem with America’s “anti-ISIS coalition” is not a matter of poor planning or a lack of resources. It is not a matter of lacking leadership or military might. The problem with America’s “anti-ISIS coalition” is that it never existed in the first place. There is no US-led war on ISIS, and what’s worse, it appears that the US, through all of its allies, from across the Persian Gulf to Eastern Europe and even within Washington itself, are involved in feeding ISIS, not fighting it.

Going from Syria itself, outward according to geographical proximity, we can trace ISIS’ support all the way back to Washington itself. And as we do, efforts like the “talks” in Vienna, and all the non-solutions proposed by the US and its allies, appear ever more absurd while the US itself is revealed not as a stabilizing force in a chaotic world, but rather the very source of that chaos.

In Syria

Within Syria itself, it is no secret that the US CIA is arming, training, funding and equipping militant groups, groups the US now claims Russia is bombing instead of “ISIS.” However, upon reading carefully any report out of newspapers in the US or its allies it becomes clear that these “rebels” always seem to be within arms reach of listed terrorist organizations, including Jabhat al Nusra.

Al Nusra is literally Al Qaeda in Syria. Not only that, it is the terrorist organization from which ISIS allegedly split from. And while the US has tried to add in a layer of extra plausible deniability to its s >http://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-anti-isis-coalition-never-existed-there-is-no-us-led-war-on-isis/5491029