Those joining ISIS

[McAz]

Doesn't make me laugh.

Compare that with this and rethink your thoughts....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/isis-education-raqqa_n_5889884.html

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

[Guest]

Doesn't make me laugh.

instilling a pride in ones country,is hardly brainwashing.. now,if they were raping kids,beheading or throwing those that didnt bend to their manipulation of what is acceptable and not acceptable,by fear & intimidation..your point may have some substance..

Why is taking small and vulnerable minds and forcing them to salute a flag or to pray to an imaginary god not brainwashing?

And the family from the UK cited in this thread joined ISIS because they feared their children would be raped or beheaded? Be serious.

And yet you champion Muslims and seem to have a love for all things islam.
You have no problem with them following Old mo do you.

[LordRaven]

Doesn't make me laugh.

Whats the matter azizz, couldn't you find a picture of British schoolkids being patriotic?
It says a lot about what you and your kind have done to the nation.

You are not wrong.

[LordRaven]

Doesn't make me laugh.

Compare that with this and rethink your thoughts....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/isis-education-raqqa_n_5889884.html

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

Patriotism is not terrorism you stupid boy!
There is a big difference.

[McAz]

Doesn't make me laugh.

Compare that with this and rethink your thoughts....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/isis-education-raqqa_n_5889884.html

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

Patriotism is not terrorism you stupid boy!
There is a big difference.

Who said it was?

[McAz]

Doesn't make me laugh.

Whats the matter azizz, couldn't you find a picture of British schoolkids being patriotic?
It says a lot about what you and your kind have done to the nation.

I didn't need to "Guest" - I was responding to a post about "westerners".

[Guest]

but because you believe it,doesnt make it so...theyre hardly pledging political allegiance or choosing a belief
tbf..the yanks are more into this jingoistic shite than the brits..but to suggest theyre brainwashing children,is,quite frankly,ridiculous..
children are a lot smarter than youre giving them credit for..its not like isis where that freedom of choice is perceived as a threat..something to be stomped into the ground...or a reason for sadistic indulgence..

Are you for real Jihidi john?
Have you never seen the pomp and ceremony we brits do when trooping the colour. Or the opening of parliment/house of lords etc?

Nobody beats the brits at jingoism. We fucking invented it.

[McAz]

Doesn't make me laugh.

instilling a pride in ones country,is hardly brainwashing.. now,if they were raping kids,beheading or throwing those that didnt bend to their manipulation of what is acceptable and not acceptable,by fear & intimidation..your point may have some substance..

Why is taking small and vulnerable minds and forcing them to salute a flag or to pray to an imaginary god not brainwashing?

And the family from the UK cited in this thread joined ISIS because they feared their children would be raped or beheaded? Be serious.

And yet you champion Muslims and seem to have a love for all things islam.
You have no problem with them following Old mo do you.

All gods are nonsense to me "Guest" - I have no preference for one over another.

[LordRaven]

Doesn't make me laugh.

Compare that with this and rethink your thoughts....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/isis-education-raqqa_n_5889884.html

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

Patriotism is not terrorism you stupid boy!
There is a big difference.

Who said it was?

You can't seem to distinguish between the two, in one you sing a song and salute the flag and then get educated in the three R's,in another you do the same but get educated to hate people not of your faith or sect and to believe that all non-muslims must convert or die.
Why do you slag off the first and support the latter?

[McAz]

You can't seem to distinguish between the two, in one you sing a song and salute the flag and then get educated in the three R's,in another you do the same but get educated to hate people not of your faith or sect and to believe that all non-muslims must convert or die.
Why do you slag off the first and support the latter?

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

[Puzzler]

Those who go to rape and pillage for ISIS, then try to crawl back here, should be extradited to face justice from either Assad's forces, the Kurds, Yazidi or any of the Shia or Christian militias in Iraq. It's those people who have had all the sickening war crimes commited against them, so why not? (cue guests squealing about the human rights of the demonic ISIS) Now here's an article to cheer you up -

A rebel group battling ISIS in Syria has turned the tables on its enemies by capturing and slaughtering dozens of Islamic State soldiers on camera.

Dressed in orange jumpsuits - attire usually worn by ISIS's victims - the Jaysh Al-Islam soldiers lead 13 shackled jihadis to their deaths.

Jaysh Al-Islam calls itself the 'Army of Islam' and reportedly commands as many as 25,000 loyal fighters following the merger of around 60 rebel factions inside Syria.

Islamic State's captured soldiers are forced to kneel as a commander announces: 'Allah did not make a disease without appointing a remedy to it.'

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[LordRaven]

but because you believe it,doesnt make it so...theyre hardly pledging political allegiance or choosing a belief
tbf..the yanks are more into this jingoistic shite than the brits..but to suggest theyre brainwashing children,is,quite frankly,ridiculous..
children are a lot smarter than youre giving them credit for..its not like isis where that freedom of choice is perceived as a threat..something to be stomped into the ground...or a reason for sadistic indulgence..

Are you for real Jihidi john?
Have you never seen the pomp and ceremony we brits do when trooping the colour. Or the opening of parliment/house of lords etc?

Nobody beats the brits at jingoism. We fucking invented it.

Having been in The Guards please believe me when I tell you it's all to do with Tourism.
A little pomp and majesty keeps London in world view.
Tis fuck all to do with jingoism.

[LordRaven]

You can't seem to distinguish between the two, in one you sing a song and salute the flag and then get educated in the three R's,in another you do the same but get educated to hate people not of your faith or sect and to believe that all non-muslims must convert or die.
Why do you slag off the first and support the latter?

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

But you fail to see the difference between patriotism and indoctrination.
That is a worry, maybe you'd like to see Sunday Schools closed?
They seem to be as evil as ISIS indoctrination in your eyes.

[McAz]

You can't seem to distinguish between the two, in one you sing a song and salute the flag and then get educated in the three R's,in another you do the same but get educated to hate people not of your faith or sect and to believe that all non-muslims must convert or die.
Why do you slag off the first and support the latter?

One system of indoctrination does not justify another.

But you fail to see the difference between patriotism and indoctrination.
That is a worry, maybe you'd like to see Sunday Schools closed?
They seem to be as evil as ISIS indoctrination in your eyes.

I imagine the family who support ISIS consider themselves patriotic - so that's okay with you?

And yes, I would prefer all establishments which seek to indoctrinate young minds into a just one religion closed.

[LordRaven]

Those who go to rape and pillage for ISIS, then try to crawl back here, should be extradited to face justice from either Assad's forces, the Kurds, Yazidi or any of the Shia or Christian militias in Iraq. It's those people who have had all the sickening war crimes commited against them, so why not? (cue guests squealing about the human rights of the demonic ISIS) Now here's an article to cheer you up -

A rebel group battling ISIS in Syria has turned the tables on its enemies by capturing and slaughtering dozens of Islamic State soldiers on camera.

Dressed in orange jumpsuits - attire usually worn by ISIS's victims - the Jaysh Al-Islam soldiers lead 13 shackled jihadis to their deaths.

Jaysh Al-Islam calls itself the 'Army of Islam' and reportedly commands as many as 25,000 loyal fighters following the merger of around 60 rebel factions inside Syria.

Islamic State's captured soldiers are forced to kneel as a commander announces: 'Allah did not make a disease without appointing a remedy to it.'

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It operates in the war-ravaged Syrian city of Damascus and its ongoing battle against President Bashar Al-Assad is reportedly funded by the wealthy nation of Saudi Arabia.
The Arab kingdom has sent millions of dollars to arm and train their fighters so they can defeat the Syrian regime and 'increasingly powerful Jihadi organisations', according to the Guardian.
Known as the Army of Islam, the insurgent group was created in 2011 when Saudi Arabia allegedly engineered the merger of over 50 rebel factions after growing alarmed at the rise if Al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria.
It is a fierce enemy of both those Islamist groups as well as Jabhat Al-Nusra, but embraces independent rebel forces and 'non-Jihadi' units.
Their graduation ceremony for trainee soldiers in the Ghouta suburb of Damascus was attended by the militants' leadership who watch proudly as their troops march in perfect unison across the expanse.
Jaysh Al-Islam is led by Sheikh Zahran Aloush who addresses the thousands of armed soldiers and tanks once they have assembled on the vast concrete ground below.


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Saudi backed??