Oh great more foreigner abuse of the health system

[dontbesilly]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

Of course you have a link to some instances of this happening yes......

[Guest]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

We don't send people back to Afghanistan to their death. Do you have proof of this....and if we did....can you prove they died once they arrived?

Yes there is proof of this. Not just Afghanistan. Various charities/NGO's monitor failed asylum seekers in various countries.
Google asylum seeker death Afghanistan, DR Congo, Zimbabwe, Iraq and there are loads of cases not just from here. Other countries have deported asylum seekers back to their death.

Shameful.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oc ... fghanistan

The Australian government today said it would investigate reports that up to 20 rejected asylum seekers from Afghanistan were killed after being sent back.

Under the former government of John Howard, about 400 asylum seekers were denied entry to Australia after it was deemed safe for them to return home.

Their fate was traced by the Edmund Rice Centre humanitarian agency, which says it has documentary evidence that nine were killed by the Taliban. The organisation estimates a further 11 people died.

The Australian immigration minister, Chris Evans, told the Sydney Morning Herald he was "taking the claims very seriously".

Evans has asked for more information about the process of detaining asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru. The so-called Pacific solution was scrapped after the Labor prime minister, Kevin Rudd, came to power in December.

The Edmund Rice Centre said other asylum seekers rejected under the policy had been forced into hiding in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Its investigation is featured in a documentary entitled A Well-Founded Fear to be broadcast next month.

The documentary includes the story of Gholam Payador, who was sent back to Afghanistan in 2002.

Payador holds up a photograph, taken on Nauru, of himself and two other people, both of whom are now dead, according to the Herald.

The former immigration minister Philip Ruddock accepted mistakes may have been made. But he added: "The [UN] refugee convention does not say you cannot be returned to a dangerous place.

"The fact that somebody might tragically die may well be as tragic as a road accident in Sydney."

Want cases from UK as well?

[Guest]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

Of course you have a link to some instances of this happening yes......

The Australian government today said it would investigate reports that up to 20 rejected asylum seekers from Afghanistan were killed after being sent back.

Under the former government of John Howard, about 400 asylum seekers were denied entry to Australia after it was deemed safe for them to return home.

Their fate was traced by the Edmund Rice Centre humanitarian agency, which says it has documentary evidence that nine were killed by the Taliban. The organisation estimates a further 11 people died.

The Australian immigration minister, Chris Evans, told the Sydney Morning Herald he was "taking the claims very seriously".

Evans has asked for more information about the process of detaining asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru. The so-called Pacific solution was scrapped after the Labor prime minister, Kevin Rudd, came to power in December.

The Edmund Rice Centre said other asylum seekers rejected under the policy had been forced into hiding in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Its investigation is featured in a documentary entitled A Well-Founded Fear to be broadcast next month.

The documentary includes the story of Gholam Payador, who was sent back to Afghanistan in 2002.

Payador holds up a photograph, taken on Nauru, of himself and two other people, both of whom are now dead, according to the Herald.

The former immigration minister Philip Ruddock accepted mistakes may have been made. But he added: "The [UN] refugee convention does not say you cannot be returned to a dangerous place.

"The fact that somebody might tragically die may well be as tragic as a road accident in Sydney."

http://www.hazarapeople.com/2011/02/24/ ... ghanistan/ Dutch sending someone back to their death

and from the UK

http://swvg-refugees.org.uk/public/inde ... um-seekers

[ANZAC]

according to the Herald.so its not a fact then just according to???????

[Guest]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

Of course you have a link to some instances of this happening yes......

The Australian government today said it would investigate reports that up to 20 rejected asylum seekers from Afghanistan were killed after being sent back.

Under the former government of John Howard, about 400 asylum seekers were denied entry to Australia after it was deemed safe for them to return home.

Their fate was traced by the Edmund Rice Centre humanitarian agency, which says it has documentary evidence that nine were killed by the Taliban. The organisation estimates a further 11 people died.

The Australian immigration minister, Chris Evans, told the Sydney Morning Herald he was "taking the claims very seriously".

Evans has asked for more information about the process of detaining asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru. The so-called Pacific solution was scrapped after the Labor prime minister, Kevin Rudd, came to power in December.

The Edmund Rice Centre said other asylum seekers rejected under the policy had been forced into hiding in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Its investigation is featured in a documentary entitled A Well-Founded Fear to be broadcast next month.

The documentary includes the story of Gholam Payador, who was sent back to Afghanistan in 2002.

Payador holds up a photograph, taken on Nauru, of himself and two other people, both of whom are now dead, according to the Herald.

The former immigration minister Philip Ruddock accepted mistakes may have been made. But he added: "The [UN] refugee convention does not say you cannot be returned to a dangerous place.

"The fact that somebody might tragically die may well be as tragic as a road accident in Sydney."

http://www.hazarapeople.com/2011/02/24/ ... ghanistan/ Dutch sending someone back to their death

and from the UK

http://swvg-refugees.org.uk/public/inde ... um-seekers

It is fact.

Deal with it

[ANZAC]

Last week there were a boat load all the way from Korea of the coast of Australia waving flags that said they are coming to NZ our PM said in no uncertain terms you are not wanted here was the message .They ended up giving up and settle for Australia there have been rumours of a few boats sinking before they got here here .We take a few in each year who do it the legal way.

[ANZAC]

If you truly seek asylum you head for the first free country you don't trek half way across the world pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled in do you???????

[Guest]

If you truly seek asylum you head for the first free country you don't trek half way across the world pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled in do you???????

You don't know how it works. In some cases metal boxes were WELDED shut for the duration of the trip. Now how do you stop at the first country when you are welded inside a metal box?

Do they have a secret powerful laser, which can cut through metal?

After they cut through the metal and escape the box do they then cut through the back doors of the truck?

[jaceylacey]

If you truly seek asylum you head for the first free country you don't trek half way across the world pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled in do you???????

Yep and when you find a country that is kind enough to take you in and free you from the threat of death......you shouldn't really have the cheek to complain about your living conditions.

[David Blaine]

If you truly seek asylum you head for the first free country you don't trek half way across the world pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled in do you???????

Yep and when you find a country that is kind enough to take you in and free you from the threat of death......you shouldn't really have the cheek to complain about your living conditions.

And when you are welded inside a metal crate and cannot possible escape

[spicy]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

We don't send people back to Afghanistan to their death. Do you have proof of this....and if we did....can you prove they died once they arrived?

Yes there is proof of this. Not just Afghanistan. Various charities/NGO's monitor failed asylum seekers in various countries.
Google asylum seeker death Afghanistan, DR Congo, Zimbabwe, Iraq and there are loads of cases not just from here. Other countries have deported asylum seekers back to their death.

Shameful.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oc ... fghanistan

The Australian government today said it would investigate reports that up to 20 rejected asylum seekers from Afghanistan were killed after being sent back.

Under the former government of John Howard, about 400 asylum seekers were denied entry to Australia after it was deemed safe for them to return home.

Their fate was traced by the Edmund Rice Centre humanitarian agency, which says it has documentary evidence that nine were killed by the Taliban. The organisation estimates a further 11 people died.

The Australian immigration minister, Chris Evans, told the Sydney Morning Herald he was "taking the claims very seriously".

Evans has asked for more information about the process of detaining asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru. The so-called Pacific solution was scrapped after the Labor prime minister, Kevin Rudd, came to power in December.

The Edmund Rice Centre said other asylum seekers rejected under the policy had been forced into hiding in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Its investigation is featured in a documentary entitled A Well-Founded Fear to be broadcast next month.

The documentary includes the story of Gholam Payador, who was sent back to Afghanistan in 2002.

Payador holds up a photograph, taken on Nauru, of himself and two other people, both of whom are now dead, according to the Herald.

The former immigration minister Philip Ruddock accepted mistakes may have been made. But he added: "The [UN] refugee convention does not say you cannot be returned to a dangerous place.

"The fact that somebody might tragically die may well be as tragic as a road accident in Sydney."

Want cases from UK as well?

That's rather like the death penalty debate - I'd say yes it's worth it, it's not Australia's fault they were murdered - Murder is down to Afghanistan government to sort out.

[Cannydc]

If you truly seek asylum you head for the first free country you don't trek half way across the world pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled in do you???????

No you don't.

The 'first safe country' rule is an urban myth.

You go where those who are prepared to smuggle you out of the country are prepared to take you.

[dontbesilly]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

We don't send people back to Afghanistan to their death. Do you have proof of this....and if we did....can you prove they died once they arrived?

Yes there is proof of this. Not just Afghanistan. Various charities/NGO's monitor failed asylum seekers in various countries.
Google asylum seeker death Afghanistan, DR Congo, Zimbabwe, Iraq and there are loads of cases not just from here. Other countries have deported asylum seekers back to their death.

Shameful.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oc ... fghanistan

The Australian government today said it would investigate reports that up to 20 rejected asylum seekers from Afghanistan were killed after being sent back.

Under the former government of John Howard, about 400 asylum seekers were denied entry to Australia after it was deemed safe for them to return home.

Their fate was traced by the Edmund Rice Centre humanitarian agency, which says it has documentary evidence that nine were killed by the Taliban. The organisation estimates a further 11 people died.

The Australian immigration minister, Chris Evans, told the Sydney Morning Herald he was "taking the claims very seriously".

Evans has asked for more information about the process of detaining asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru. The so-called Pacific solution was scrapped after the Labor prime minister, Kevin Rudd, came to power in December.

The Edmund Rice Centre said other asylum seekers rejected under the policy had been forced into hiding in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Its investigation is featured in a documentary entitled A Well-Founded Fear to be broadcast next month.

The documentary includes the story of Gholam Payador, who was sent back to Afghanistan in 2002.

Payador holds up a photograph, taken on Nauru, of himself and two other people, both of whom are now dead, according to the Herald.

The former immigration minister Philip Ruddock accepted mistakes may have been made. But he added: "The [UN] refugee convention does not say you cannot be returned to a dangerous place.

"The fact that somebody might tragically die may well be as tragic as a road accident in Sydney."

Want cases from UK as well?

Well, seeing as though we live in the uk, take a wild guess. Bearing in mind that people DO die in many countries, who's to say that any death is linked to the fact that they were sent back? There are probably as many people die here at the hands of "asylum seekers" as die when sent back. It's not long since a Somali "asylum seeker" murdered a policewoman and then hightailed it back to Somalia where it suddenly became safe for him.

[Guest]

Well considering the whole asylum process is to shelter someone who would be in danger in the homeland.....and if their situation doesn't meet that requirement....then obviously they will not be put to death on their return....which means they are here illegally.

No it doesn't.
Not anywhere near close.
Where is your logic when we send back people to Afghanistan to their death?

We don't send people back to Afghanistan to their death. Do you have proof of this....and if we did....can you prove they died once they arrived?

Yes there is proof of this. Not just Afghanistan. Various charities/NGO's monitor failed asylum seekers in various countries.
Google asylum seeker death Afghanistan, DR Congo, Zimbabwe, Iraq and there are loads of cases not just from here. Other countries have deported asylum seekers back to their death.

Shameful.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oc ... fghanistan

The Australian government today said it would investigate reports that up to 20 rejected asylum seekers from Afghanistan were killed after being sent back.

Under the former government of John Howard, about 400 asylum seekers were denied entry to Australia after it was deemed safe for them to return home.

Their fate was traced by the Edmund Rice Centre humanitarian agency, which says it has documentary evidence that nine were killed by the Taliban. The organisation estimates a further 11 people died.

The Australian immigration minister, Chris Evans, told the Sydney Morning Herald he was "taking the claims very seriously".

Evans has asked for more information about the process of detaining asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru. The so-called Pacific solution was scrapped after the Labor prime minister, Kevin Rudd, came to power in December.

The Edmund Rice Centre said other asylum seekers rejected under the policy had been forced into hiding in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Its investigation is featured in a documentary entitled A Well-Founded Fear to be broadcast next month.

The documentary includes the story of Gholam Payador, who was sent back to Afghanistan in 2002.

Payador holds up a photograph, taken on Nauru, of himself and two other people, both of whom are now dead, according to the Herald.

The former immigration minister Philip Ruddock accepted mistakes may have been made. But he added: "The [UN] refugee convention does not say you cannot be returned to a dangerous place.

"The fact that somebody might tragically die may well be as tragic as a road accident in Sydney."

Want cases from UK as well?

Well, seeing as though we live in the uk, take a wild guess. Bearing in mind that people DO die in many countries, who's to say that any death is linked to the fact that they were sent back? There are probably as many people die here at the hands of "asylum seekers" as die when sent back. It's not long since a Somali "asylum seeker" murdered a policewoman and then hightailed it back to Somalia where it suddenly became safe for him.

I noticed you blanked this link

http://swvg-refugees.org.uk/public/inde ... ekers48qk2