Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

[Maddog]

A load of nations, but Syria has a real army with real air cover. They are really in the best position to take them on. They got the boots on the ground.

Maybe this is all part of Assad's plan. After a few years of this nonsense, the Syrians that hate him will be dead or liVing in Europe. He won't have those pesky uprisings anymore.

Yup. I got it all figured out.

[Guest]

Logistics 101: Where Does ISIS Get Its Guns?

Since ancient times an army required significant logistical support to carry out any kind of sustained military campaign. In ancient Rome, an extensive network of roads was constructed to facilitate not only trade, but to allow Roman legions to move quickly to where they were needed, and for the supplies needed to sustain military operations to follow them in turn.

ISIS’ Supply Lines

The current conflict consuming the Middle East, particularly in Iraq and Syria where the so-called “Islamic State” (ISIS) is operating and simultaneously fighting and defeating the forces of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Iran, we are told, is built upon a logistical network based on black market oil and ransom payments.

The fighting capacity of ISIS is that of a nation-state. It controls vast swaths of territory straddling both Syria and Iraq and not only is able to militarily defend and expand from this territory, but possesses the resources to occupy it, including the resources to administer the populations subjugated within it.

For military analysts, especially former members of Western armed forces, as well as members of the Western media who remember the convoys of trucks required for the invasions of Iraq in the 1990s and again in 2003, they surely must wonder where ISIS’ trucks are today. After all, if the resources to maintain the fighting capacity exhibited by ISIS were available within Syrian and Iraqi territory alone, then certainly Syrian and Iraqi forces would also posses an equal or greater fighting capacity but they simply do not.

And were ISIS’ supply lines solely confined within Syrian and Iraqi territory, then surely both Syrian and Iraqi forces would utilize their one advantage – air power – to cut front line ISIS fighters from the source of their supplies. But this is not happening and there is a good reason why >>>>>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/logistics-101-where-does-isis-get-its-guns/5454726

You reckon Assad is giving them arms? It is odd that his airforce and army couldn't at least drive them out of Syria.

A load of nations military supposedly fighting them and yet when you read that article it becomes obvious it's been yet another polished turd story.
Another pile of utter bullshit.

Good article jack, and :

ISIS’ supply lines run precisely where Syrian and Iraqi air power cannot go. To the north and into NATO-member Turkey, and to the southwest into US allies Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Beyond these borders exists a logistical network that spans a region including both Eastern Europe and North Africa.

Terrorists and weapons left over from NATO’s intervention in Libya in 2011 were promptly sent to Turkey and then onto Syria – coordinated by US State Department officials and intelligence agencies in Benghazi – a terrorist hotbed for decades.

The London Telegraph would report in their 2013 article, “CIA ‘running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked’,” that:

[CNN] said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

Weapons have also come from Eastern Europe, with the New York Times reporting in 2013 in their article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.,” that:

From offices at secret locations, American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia, and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive, according to American officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.

And while Western media sources continuously refer to ISIS and other factions operating under the banner of Al Qaeda as “rebels” or “moderates,” it is clear that if billions of dollars in weapons were truly going to “moderates,” they, not ISIS would be dominating the battlefield.

Recent revelations have revealed that as early as 2012 the United States Department of Defense not only anticipated the creation of a “Salafist Principality” straddling Syria and Iraq precisely where ISIS now exists, it welcomed it eagerly and contributed to the circumstances required to bring it about.

And some people still try to deny western interference. Finger prints all over the gulf puppet states and links straight back tot he main player. FFS,

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And Maddog still prattles on about Assad ...Assad who was targeted by the yanks as far back as 2001 for regime change.
The bullshit is falling apart since Russia decided enough was enough.

[Maddog]

Sen. Rand Paul suspects the U.S. was secretly running guns through the consulate in Benghazi to arm Syrian rebels. The Kentucky Republican said the Obama administration must provide answers about whether firearms trafficking through Libya was related to the terrorist attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

“We need to ask a lot of people in the administration, including Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton and others: Were we shipping arms to Turkey? And, was that why the ambassador was there in Benghazi? And why the CIA annex was there?” Mr. Paul said Sunday in an interview with Shannon Bream of Fox News.



From over two years ago. It's no secret Obama has been sending arms to Syria to overthrow Assad.

How has it been working?

[Maddog]

And Maddog still prattles on about Assad ...Assad who was targeted by the yanks as far back as 2001 for regime change.
The bullshit is falling apart since Russia decided enough was enough.

Assad is an ass, but I don't care if he stays or leaves. I doubt a replacement would be any better for the Syrians or us.

[Guest]

A load of nations, but Syria has a real army with real air cover. They are really in the best position to take them on. They got the boots on the ground.

Maybe this is all part of Assad's plan. After a few years of this nonsense, the Syrians that hate him will be dead or liVing in Europe. He won't have those pesky uprisings anymore.

Yup. I got it all figured out.

It's rare that I agree with calitom but on this issue, he is bang on. You are well out there maddog, drinking deep from the koolaid well.

I do keep saying, not all American's are taken in by the official narrative bullshit. You think you're smart in opposing governments and disagreeing with them, because, well, because they're governments, yet on this, your lapping up everything they dribble out.

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Sen. Rand Paul suspects the U.S. was secretly running guns through the consulate in Benghazi to arm Syrian rebels. The Kentucky Republican said the Obama administration must provide answers about whether firearms trafficking through Libya was related to the terrorist attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

“We need to ask a lot of people in the administration, including Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton and others: Were we shipping arms to Turkey? And, was that why the ambassador was there in Benghazi? And why the CIA annex was there?” Mr. Paul said Sunday in an interview with Shannon Bream of Fox News.



From over two years ago. It's no secret Obama has been sending arms to Syria to overthrow Assad.

How has it been working?

Obama this Obama that!
You just don't get it and never will.
Regime change in Syria was on the table in Washington before you ever heard of Obama.
Doesn't matter who is the face in the white house but you can't get your small mind around that.
The agenda is up and running and won't change whoever gets voted in or out because there are much bigger people than the clowns that entertain you.

[Maddog]

Sen. Rand Paul suspects the U.S. was secretly running guns through the consulate in Benghazi to arm Syrian rebels. The Kentucky Republican said the Obama administration must provide answers about whether firearms trafficking through Libya was related to the terrorist attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

“We need to ask a lot of people in the administration, including Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton and others: Were we shipping arms to Turkey? And, was that why the ambassador was there in Benghazi? And why the CIA annex was there?” Mr. Paul said Sunday in an interview with Shannon Bream of Fox News.



From over two years ago. It's no secret Obama has been sending arms to Syria to overthrow Assad.

How has it been working?

Obama this Obama that!
You just don't get it and never will.
Regime change in Syria was on the table in Washington before you ever heard of Obama.
Doesn't matter who is the face in the white house but you can't get your small mind around that.
The agenda is up and running and won't change whoever gets voted in or out because there are much bigger people than the clowns that entertain you.

And you don't understand that policies from last month are hardly relevant anymore. Let alone policies from 14 years ago.

And it's not my small mind. I quoted Rand Paul. Do you have a better source who currently can read intelligence reports?

This should be interesting.

[Maddog]

A load of nations, but Syria has a real army with real air cover. They are really in the best position to take them on. They got the boots on the ground.

Maybe this is all part of Assad's plan. After a few years of this nonsense, the Syrians that hate him will be dead or liVing in Europe. He won't have those pesky uprisings anymore.

Yup. I got it all figured out.

It's rare that I agree with calitom but on this issue, he is bang on. You are well out there maddog, drinking deep from the koolaid well.

I do keep saying, not all American's are taken in by the official narrative bullshit. You think you're smart in opposing governments and disagreeing with them, because, well, because they're governments, yet on this, your lapping up everything they dribble out.

Good post!!

[Maddog]

Come on Jack. Type one fucking name. It shouldn't take that long.

[Maddog]

Come on Jack. I'm getting bored. One fucking name with a big mind like yours.

[Maddog]

Dude, there are 535 members of congress. Pick one with a large brain like you.

[Maddog]

I guess you passed out. It's OK, it happens.

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Sen. Rand Paul suspects the U.S. was secretly running guns through the consulate in Benghazi to arm Syrian rebels. The Kentucky Republican said the Obama administration must provide answers about whether firearms trafficking through Libya was related to the terrorist attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

“We need to ask a lot of people in the administration, including Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton and others: Were we shipping arms to Turkey? And, was that why the ambassador was there in Benghazi? And why the CIA annex was there?” Mr. Paul said Sunday in an interview with Shannon Bream of Fox News.



From over two years ago. It's no secret Obama has been sending arms to Syria to overthrow Assad.

How has it been working?

Obama this Obama that!
You just don't get it and never will.
Regime change in Syria was on the table in Washington before you ever heard of Obama.
Doesn't matter who is the face in the white house but you can't get your small mind around that.
The agenda is up and running and won't change whoever gets voted in or out because there are much bigger people than the clowns that entertain you.

And you don't understand that policies from last month are hardly relevant anymore. Let alone policies from 14 years ago.

And it's not my small mind. I quoted Rand Paul. Do you have a better source who currently can read intelligence reports?

This should be interesting.

I don't need a current source I need to be able see what's happening and what's happening is a continuation of the neocon agenda of the Project for the American Century full spectrum dominance etc.
Why would I need a name?
Maddog defender of everything government.

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Maddog doesn't want government interfering in his life.
Maddog wants government interfering in the lives of others around the entire earth to maintain his comfort level.