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Grafenwalder wrote:Seems the delicate one has called up the Proud Boys.

FBI warns of violent threats to bureau as Trump demands Mar-a-Lago documents back

The FBI has warned that threats against federal law enforcement personnel are spiking dramatically in the wake of the raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home last week.

A memo issued jointly by the bureau and the Department of Homeland Security warns of “the potential for domestic violent extremists to carry out attacks...in reaction to the FBI's recent execution of a court-authorized search warrant in Palm Beach, Florida”. The bulletin even warns of a threat to “place a so-called Dirty Bomb in front of FBI headquarters”.

Armed supporters of former president Donald Trump protested outside the FBI’s office in Phoenix, Arizona.

Some protesters held signs saying “Honor your oath: Arrest all traitors”.

Others were dressed in military fatigues with bullet-proof vests with rifles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 45096.html

I know they've always been a bit odd but seriously, grown men dressing up pretending to be 'soldiers'. What IS the matter with these folk?

Grafenwalder wrote:Seems the delicate one has called up the Proud Boys.

FBI warns of violent threats to bureau as Trump demands Mar-a-Lago documents back

The FBI has warned that threats against federal law enforcement personnel are spiking dramatically in the wake of the raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home last week.

A memo issued jointly by the bureau and the Department of Homeland Security warns of “the potential for domestic violent extremists to carry out attacks...in reaction to the FBI's recent execution of a court-authorized search warrant in Palm Beach, Florida”. The bulletin even warns of a threat to “place a so-called Dirty Bomb in front of FBI headquarters”.

Armed supporters of former president Donald Trump protested outside the FBI’s office in Phoenix, Arizona.

Some protesters held signs saying “Honor your oath: Arrest all traitors”.

Others were dressed in military fatigues with bullet-proof vests with rifles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 45096.html

I know they've always been a bit odd but seriously, grown men dressing up pretending to be 'soldiers'. What IS the matter with these folk?

The FBI has warned that threats against federal law enforcement personnel are spiking dramatically in the wake of the raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home last week.

A memo issued jointly by the bureau and the Department of Homeland Security warns of “the potential for domestic violent extremists to carry out attacks...in reaction to the FBI's recent execution of a court-authorized search warrant in Palm Beach, Florida”. The bulletin even warns of a threat to “place a so-called Dirty Bomb in front of FBI headquarters”.

Armed supporters of former president Donald Trump protested outside the FBI’s office in Phoenix, Arizona.

Some protesters held signs saying “Honor your oath: Arrest all traitors”.

Others were dressed in military fatigues with bullet-proof vests with rifles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 45096.html

Sane People wrote:

RWNJ wrote:If they can investigate Donald Trump and send him to prision for committing a crime they could do the same to you

And your problem with that is?

Holly wrote:You do realise that they're going after Trump to stop him from running in 2024 like he said he would, right? They're terrified of him that he could win, even though I personally don't think he would if the Republicans bring in someone younger, like DeSantis or who ever.
Don't you find it just a little bit suspicious that Hillary can make up that Russian collusion, demolish phones, and deletes 30K emails, and nothing gets done about it? Probably not, the left can't do wrong, but excuse me if I do. Anyway, we're talking in circles.

Holly wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:If 100% innocent, why would anyone plead the Fifth? Least of all Trump who has the wealth and access to the best corrupt lawyers money can buy, not to mention in the past he's disparagingly referred to anyone taking the Fifth is from the Mob. In other words a criminal. Most people knew Trump has a criminal history so thats nothing new but the hypocrisy is laughable.

It's the same as applies in law here. Anyone questioned by the police is entitled to state "no comment". However if genuinely innocent you aren't helping yourself and only making matters a lot worse!

This is an interesting report; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -for-trump

I never said Trump is innocent of everything he's accused of, but are you actually suggesting that the Bidens/Clintons are ethical, honest, trustworthy politicians? If you say yes, than sorry, but it's your hypocrisy that's laughable. It is my firm believe that ALL politicians are corrupt to some extent.

Cactus Jack wrote:

Holly wrote:Of course you're right, you're always right. So who am I to argue with you?
Happy?

No - not being on the right I don't expect a total acceptance of 'whatever the new line is'.

Donald Trump refused to comply with a subpoena and search warrant was issued that, on the face of it, seems to confirm that government files were being improperly stored at Mar-a-Lago.

MAGAHat wrote:We don't know if Donald Trump has any connection to this crime at all but we do know that it relates to an investigation under the espionage act.

Maybe a guest at Mar-a-lago was discovered, or strongly suspected to be, an agent of a hostile power and that's why they needed to act quickly.

And there you see me - who does not believe that Donald Trump is innocent - presenting a far better defence of him than the blanket accusations, distractions, deflections and deceit being put out by a client media circle that knows Donald Trump is guilty but doesn't want to accept it.

Holly wrote:Of course you're right, you're always right. So who am I to argue with you?
Happy?

MAGAHat wrote:We don't know if Donald Trump has any connection to this crime at all but we do know that it relates to an investigation under the espionage act.

Maybe a guest at Mar-a-lago was discovered, or strongly suspected to be, an agent of a hostile power and that's why they needed to act quickly.

Cactus Jack wrote:

Holly wrote:

Cactus Jack wrote:

Holly wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:If 100% innocent, why would anyone plead the Fifth? Least of all Trump who has the wealth and access to the best corrupt lawyers money can buy, not to mention in the past he's disparagingly referred to anyone taking the Fifth is from the Mob. In other words a criminal. Most people knew Trump has a criminal history so thats nothing new but the hypocrisy is laughable.

It's the same as applies in law here. Anyone questioned by the police is entitled to state "no comment". However if genuinely innocent you aren't helping yourself and only making matters a lot worse!

This is an interesting report; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -for-trump

I never said Trump is innocent of everything he's accused of, but are you actually suggesting that the Bidens/Clintons are ethical, honest, trustworthy politicians? If you say yes, than sorry, but it's your hypocrisy that's laughable. It is my firm believe that ALL politicians are corrupt to some extent.

Only you have mentioned the Clintons.

And if you want to make that comparison in investigating 'missing emails' from Benghazi alone the Republicans started investigations that involved 12 Federal agencies and 9 outside agencies issued 17 subpoenas that we fully complied with listened to testimony from 800 witnesses including Hilary Clinton herself who answered questions for 11 hours without pleading the 5th once. That was in just one year and there were others with many other investigations. The only two things they found were that Bill Clinton likes to get a blow job and Hilary Clinton, however capable she might be, is an exceptionally boring politician.

So let's have Trump on the stand for 11 hours and if he is able to answer every question and not have to take the 5th once. If that happens and he doesn't incriminate himself I will be far more gracious than you and concede that Trump is not as dishonest as he has been painted.

Ahh right

How long did it take you to come up with that gem?

You've set the goalpost. But I'm guessing you want to move them right about now.

Let's see Trump answering questions about an attack on an American government facility, where Americans were killed in a civil disturbance - in fact the parallels between issues raised in relation to Benghazi and the Jan 6 Insurrection are strikingly similar - except Republicans set up over two dozen investigations into the former and don't want to have any investigations of the latter.

Holly wrote:

Cactus Jack wrote:

Holly wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:If 100% innocent, why would anyone plead the Fifth? Least of all Trump who has the wealth and access to the best corrupt lawyers money can buy, not to mention in the past he's disparagingly referred to anyone taking the Fifth is from the Mob. In other words a criminal. Most people knew Trump has a criminal history so thats nothing new but the hypocrisy is laughable.

It's the same as applies in law here. Anyone questioned by the police is entitled to state "no comment". However if genuinely innocent you aren't helping yourself and only making matters a lot worse!

This is an interesting report; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -for-trump

I never said Trump is innocent of everything he's accused of, but are you actually suggesting that the Bidens/Clintons are ethical, honest, trustworthy politicians? If you say yes, than sorry, but it's your hypocrisy that's laughable. It is my firm believe that ALL politicians are corrupt to some extent.

Only you have mentioned the Clintons.

And if you want to make that comparison in investigating 'missing emails' from Benghazi alone the Republicans started investigations that involved 12 Federal agencies and 9 outside agencies issued 17 subpoenas that we fully complied with listened to testimony from 800 witnesses including Hilary Clinton herself who answered questions for 11 hours without pleading the 5th once. That was in just one year and there were others with many other investigations. The only two things they found were that Bill Clinton likes to get a blow job and Hilary Clinton, however capable she might be, is an exceptionally boring politician.

So let's have Trump on the stand for 11 hours and if he is able to answer every question and not have to take the 5th once. If that happens and he doesn't incriminate himself I will be far more gracious than you and concede that Trump is not as dishonest as he has been painted.

Ahh right

Cactus Jack wrote:

Holly wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:If 100% innocent, why would anyone plead the Fifth? Least of all Trump who has the wealth and access to the best corrupt lawyers money can buy, not to mention in the past he's disparagingly referred to anyone taking the Fifth is from the Mob. In other words a criminal. Most people knew Trump has a criminal history so thats nothing new but the hypocrisy is laughable.

It's the same as applies in law here. Anyone questioned by the police is entitled to state "no comment". However if genuinely innocent you aren't helping yourself and only making matters a lot worse!

This is an interesting report; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -for-trump

I never said Trump is innocent of everything he's accused of, but are you actually suggesting that the Bidens/Clintons are ethical, honest, trustworthy politicians? If you say yes, than sorry, but it's your hypocrisy that's laughable. It is my firm believe that ALL politicians are corrupt to some extent.

Only you have mentioned the Clintons.

And if you want to make that comparison in investigating 'missing emails' from Benghazi alone the Republicans started investigations that involved 12 Federal agencies and 9 outside agencies issued 17 subpoenas that we fully complied with listened to testimony from 800 witnesses including Hilary Clinton herself who answered questions for 11 hours without pleading the 5th once. That was in just one year and there were others with many other investigations. The only two things they found were that Bill Clinton likes to get a blow job and Hilary Clinton, however capable she might be, is an exceptionally boring politician.

So let's have Trump on the stand for 11 hours and if he is able to answer every question and not have to take the 5th once. If that happens and he doesn't incriminate himself I will be far more gracious than you and concede that Trump is not as dishonest as he has been painted.

Holly wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:If 100% innocent, why would anyone plead the Fifth? Least of all Trump who has the wealth and access to the best corrupt lawyers money can buy, not to mention in the past he's disparagingly referred to anyone taking the Fifth is from the Mob. In other words a criminal. Most people knew Trump has a criminal history so thats nothing new but the hypocrisy is laughable.

It's the same as applies in law here. Anyone questioned by the police is entitled to state "no comment". However if genuinely innocent you aren't helping yourself and only making matters a lot worse!

This is an interesting report; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -for-trump

I never said Trump is innocent of everything he's accused of, but are you actually suggesting that the Bidens/Clintons are ethical, honest, trustworthy politicians? If you say yes, than sorry, but it's your hypocrisy that's laughable. It is my firm believe that ALL politicians are corrupt to some extent.

Grafenwalder wrote:If 100% innocent, why would anyone plead the Fifth? Least of all Trump who has the wealth and access to the best corrupt lawyers money can buy, not to mention in the past he's disparagingly referred to anyone taking the Fifth is from the Mob. In other words a criminal. Most people knew Trump has a criminal history so thats nothing new but the hypocrisy is laughable.

It's the same as applies in law here. Anyone questioned by the police is entitled to state "no comment". However if genuinely innocent you aren't helping yourself and only making matters a lot worse!

This is an interesting report; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -for-trump