by Stooo » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:13 pm
Avon Barksdale wrote:Stooo wrote:Avon Barksdale wrote:Seems unlikely. That would be like turkeys voting for Christmas...
Think the Conservatives will hope for a good summer to limit their losses at a General Election at the least.
And give the R parties more leverage?
Looks that way...
I've seen a recent poll with Labour 28 points ahead and Reform only 5 points behind them now. This could be very, very bad for the Conservatives.
This
will be very bad for them, delaying it will add to the attrition. I've heard rumours of October but the tory vote will be a wasteland after the Summer recess.
‘I want my country back’: what’s in a phrase?
Lee Anderson’s decision this week to join the Reform Party, becoming its first, if unelected, MP brought into focus several of the Brexit themes I’ve been writing about in recent months. At the beginning of October, discussing the ways that Brexit has driven the Tory Party mad, I made specific reference to Anderson, then the Deputy Chairman, as illustrating how there are no discernible differences between many sections of the Tory Party and Reform. So, given the prompt of losing the Tory whip, it was an obvious move for him to make. It’s possible that other Tory MPs will follow him to Reform without that spur to action, but none have done so yet. And why should they? It is now obvious to all, as it should have been for a while, that, as I wrote in February 2023, Brexitism is eating Conservatism.
Thus the end-game for the Brexitist (or NatCon populists, or Five Families, or whatever label we might use for them) is to take complete control of the Tory Party after it loses the election, and then to bring Reform Party voters and politicians, perhaps including Nigel Farage, into an invigorated ‘true Conservative’ Party. Meanwhile, the job of Reform is to siphon off as much as possible of the vote, so as to inflict a catastrophic defeat upon Sunak, facilitating the Brexitist takeover and paving the way for an actual or effective merger. Who knows, Anderson himself may re-enter the Tory fold in the process. Or perhaps he will disappear into well-deserved oblivion, a footnote in dusty volumes of political history.
https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.co ... hrase.html
[quote="Avon Barksdale"][quote="Stooo"][quote="Avon Barksdale"]Seems unlikely. That would be like turkeys voting for Christmas...
Think the Conservatives will hope for a good summer to limit their losses at a General Election at the least.[/quote]
And give the R parties more leverage?[/quote]
Looks that way...
I've seen a recent poll with Labour 28 points ahead and Reform only 5 points behind them now. This could be very, very bad for the Conservatives.[/quote]
This [i]will[/i] be very bad for them, delaying it will add to the attrition. I've heard rumours of October but the tory vote will be a wasteland after the Summer recess.
[quote] ‘I want my country back’: what’s in a phrase?
Lee Anderson’s decision this week to join the Reform Party, becoming its first, if unelected, MP brought into focus several of the Brexit themes I’ve been writing about in recent months. At the beginning of October, discussing the ways that Brexit has driven the Tory Party mad, I made specific reference to Anderson, then the Deputy Chairman, as illustrating how there are no discernible differences between many sections of the Tory Party and Reform. So, given the prompt of losing the Tory whip, it was an obvious move for him to make. It’s possible that other Tory MPs will follow him to Reform without that spur to action, but none have done so yet. And why should they? It is now obvious to all, as it should have been for a while, that, as I wrote in February 2023, Brexitism is eating Conservatism.
Thus the end-game for the Brexitist (or NatCon populists, or Five Families, or whatever label we might use for them) is to take complete control of the Tory Party after it loses the election, and then to bring Reform Party voters and politicians, perhaps including Nigel Farage, into an invigorated ‘true Conservative’ Party. Meanwhile, the job of Reform is to siphon off as much as possible of the vote, so as to inflict a catastrophic defeat upon Sunak, facilitating the Brexitist takeover and paving the way for an actual or effective merger. Who knows, Anderson himself may re-enter the Tory fold in the process. Or perhaps he will disappear into well-deserved oblivion, a footnote in dusty volumes of political history.[/quote]
https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2024/03/i-want-my-country-back-whats-in-phrase.html