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A baby who was placed into foster care died after she was left in a hot car for at least two hours.

The 10-month-old girl was left strapped into her car seat on Thursday as temperatures reached 32 degrees in Wichita, Kansas.

Emergency services were called at 6.41pm but the girl was pronounced dead at 6:49pm.

The girl was in foster care with two men.

One of them, 29-year-old Seth Michael Jackson, had picked her up from a baby sitter at about 4pm and forgot he had left her in the car which had its tinted windows closed.

The other man was in the back garden and assumed all the children were in the house.

Canary wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Yes I've already mentioned the P word. Something that is easy and straightforward to do when you're relaxed can suddenly look impossible when you're all flustered or panicky. If you're in an accident in an unfamiliar vehicle, and it's starting to fill up with smoke, or if the door is badly dented and twisted, or if the car is sinking down into a river, you need an exit strategy that works fast. Else you're gone.

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Time to get rid of your deathtrap then and buy a decent car.

It's a more than decent car.


How about something constructive - like how do you for example override the deadlock on your car, from the inside and without keys? Then perhaps I could check mine.

It's not my problem - it's yours.

Contact the manufacturer of your car if you don't know how to over-ride it. I don't even know what car you drive, so how the fuck can I tell you how to over-ride the deadlocks?

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:


I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Time to get rid of your deathtrap then and buy a decent car.

It's a more than decent car.

Not if you can't escape in an emergency it isn't.

It's up to you of course if you value your car above your own life and those of yours whom you transport in it. No skin off my nose at all.

You do talk some twaddle - and the rest of my post?


What emergency? If I was driving the keys would be in the ignition.

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Time to get rid of your deathtrap then and buy a decent car.

It's a more than decent car.


How about something constructive - like how do you for example override the deadlock on your car, from the inside and without keys? Then perhaps I could check mine.

Trapezerjohn wrote:My car automatically locks all the doors a few seconds after putting the key in the ignition. There is an easily identifiable button on the dash to press to unlock them all.

Guest wrote:
Not if you can't escape in an emergency it isn't.

It's up to you of course if you value your car above your own life and those of yours whom you transport in it. No skin off my nose at all.

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Time to get rid of your deathtrap then and buy a decent car.

It's a more than decent car.

Not if you can't escape in an emergency it isn't.

It's up to you of course if you value your car above your own life and those of yours whom you transport in it. No skin off my nose at all.

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Time to get rid of your deathtrap then and buy a decent car.

It's a more than decent car.

Guest wrote:

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Time to get rid of your deathtrap then and buy a decent car.

Snuffleupagus wrote:

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

I still can't find a way of unlocking my car from the inside without the key in the ignition. Just thinking too - even if cars like that have an "emergency" button or something, firstly how would you find it if panicking in a real emergency, and secondly if you could find it then so could a thief/whatever.

Canary wrote:

Guest wrote:Was I the only one struggling to stay awake reading most of the last page of this thread?

Looks like it! Or maybe the people who found it boring did the logical thing & moved swiftly on, to a topic they found more interesting instead of taking the time and trouble to complain rudely.

The posts had the opposite effect on me, they made me sit bolt upright & pay attention, cos i realised I could learn a lot from what the guests, Holly & Snuffs were all saying. I could save my life and the lives of others in an emergency.

Holly and some guests made the excellent point that manufacturers will not design cars which lock people in. Snuffs post reminded us that things can still go wrong, so we mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security. Her mum was only locked in (or felt locked in) for a minute or 2 but it must have felt like ages ... i'd have panicked.

Victoria wrote:Have you heard of the terrible case in America were a man has been accused of murdering his 18 month old son by leaving him in his car on a roasting hot day for about seven hours? Justin Ross Harris claimed he'd forgotten to take Cooper to his nursery. The police found out he'd been doing research online about how long it would take a child to die in a car. He'd also taken out life insurance on him.