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Stooo wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Stooo wrote:

LordRaven wrote:
Lol, two muppets who have no clue how to explain how a reception centre in France could actually work clubbing together their complete and utter ignorance.
Just admit it, it’s unworkable

Yep, there is no freedom of movement between non-EU countries and the EU. I didn't know fuck all about the EU in 2016 but I knew that.

The facts are, this will never end, unless Britain becomes a really shit place to live. Could happen
The smuggling gangs are making a fortune they’ll keep it going.
People here will be urging friends and family to give it a go, so those wanting to come here will never dry up.
The people smugglers will always tell those wishing to risk their lives in the channel to avoid officialdom - until they’re in the UK.
Migrants who paid “Travel Agents” for a trip to England, will not stop until they are on an English beach, or picked up by a British vessel.
I can’t think for one millisecond that anyone who’s come hundreds/thousands of miles, who’s made it with just 20 miles to go, will go and register with Officialdom in France and risk being detained when they are ever so close to their goal.

Who’d house and feed them? France wouldn’t, and, as I put to Graf and Xtras, laying on ferries to take them to England, to be detained whilst their cases were looked at, would merely feed into the hands of the smuggling gangs.
Who would then advertising even more trips, because they’d only have to get them to Calais and cease paying for dinghies.

Totally unworkable! Another benefit of BrexShit, the EU, especially France, can’t be arsed with us, and they’ll just keep pushing them through.


This is never going to stop, there is no solution, not Graf’s stupid idea, or the idiotic Rwanda bollocks.

Come here for what? There's fuck all.

LordRaven wrote:

Stooo wrote:

LordRaven wrote:
Lol, two muppets who have no clue how to explain how a reception centre in France could actually work clubbing together their complete and utter ignorance.
Just admit it, it’s unworkable

Yep, there is no freedom of movement between non-EU countries and the EU. I didn't know fuck all about the EU in 2016 but I knew that.

The facts are, this will never end, unless Britain becomes a really shit place to live. Could happen
The smuggling gangs are making a fortune they’ll keep it going.
People here will be urging friends and family to give it a go, so those wanting to come here will never dry up.
The people smugglers will always tell those wishing to risk their lives in the channel to avoid officialdom - until they’re in the UK.
Migrants who paid “Travel Agents” for a trip to England, will not stop until they are on an English beach, or picked up by a British vessel.
I can’t think for one millisecond that anyone who’s come hundreds/thousands of miles, who’s made it with just 20 miles to go, will go and register with Officialdom in France and risk being detained when they are ever so close to their goal.

Who’d house and feed them? France wouldn’t, and, as I put to Graf and Xtras, laying on ferries to take them to England, to be detained whilst their cases were looked at, would merely feed into the hands of the smuggling gangs.
Who would then advertising even more trips, because they’d only have to get them to Calais and cease paying for dinghies.

Totally unworkable! Another benefit of BrexShit, the EU, especially France, can’t be arsed with us, and they’ll just keep pushing them through.


This is never going to stop, there is no solution, not Graf’s stupid idea, or the idiotic Rwanda bollocks.

Stooo wrote:

LordRaven wrote:
Lol, two muppets who have no clue how to explain how a reception centre in France could actually work clubbing together their complete and utter ignorance.
Just admit it, it’s unworkable

Yep, there is no freedom of movement between non-EU countries and the EU. I didn't know fuck all about the EU in 2016 but I knew that.

LordRaven wrote:
Lol, two muppets who have no clue how to explain how a reception centre in France could actually work clubbing together their complete and utter ignorance.
Just admit it, it’s unworkable

xtras1 wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:

xtras1 wrote:

LordRaven wrote:Graf old bean, your just a blabbering, RW hating buffoon!
McCarthy-like with his Reds under Beds crap.
I used to think you were a good poster in the News Section.
WTF has happened to you?

Not a big enough audience for you in the News section?
On that, I’ll agree with you.
What’s the point of all those different sections in News?
There are so few posters now, they should shut it and make everyone post news threads here.
It would liven the place up a bit.

But please, we all know this government is an uncaring, self centred, useless bunch of wankers.
We also know they’re the cause of the degradation of living standards and increasing poverty etc etc.
The sooner we get rid of them the better.

However, you are blaming the actions of New Labour and it’s aftermath, when they invited the world to come and live here “to wipe the Right’s nose in it” on Right Wingers, when history shows that’s not true at all.
Mandelson said they sent out search parties to get that policy going.
That all set into being international smuggling rings, and caravans stretching to all corners of the earth that are being added to every single day.

Blair’s Wars, and then Cameron’s war etc added to all that, and then Africans thought they’d join in and here we are.
Africans drowning trying to get to the bloody Canary Islands ffs!
I read an article on that recently, poor souls, that’s the Atlantic - not the channel.

Instead of your whining and blaming, wrongly, the RW - because people would probably be shot in the water by the people you try and portray in your fabrications, it would help if there was some international effort to either stop this dead, or make things easier and safer for people to migrate.

I’m fed up of people risking their lives to get here, or the Canary Islands etc. It’s an international problem that requires an international solution.

Please desist with your complete and utter bullshit, it’s more than annoying!

Quotas would be a nice thing. We need new people, and I’m sure other countries do too. We’ve a potential world war coming, both in Europe and the far east things could kick off. The blue touch paper is ready to be lit.

See what I mean Graf .. I mean look at this

Exactly - a diatribe of nonsensical twaddle.

And he actually took the time & thought about it

Grafenwalder wrote:

xtras1 wrote:

LordRaven wrote:Graf old bean, your just a blabbering, RW hating buffoon!
McCarthy-like with his Reds under Beds crap.
I used to think you were a good poster in the News Section.
WTF has happened to you?

Not a big enough audience for you in the News section?
On that, I’ll agree with you.
What’s the point of all those different sections in News?
There are so few posters now, they should shut it and make everyone post news threads here.
It would liven the place up a bit.

But please, we all know this government is an uncaring, self centred, useless bunch of wankers.
We also know they’re the cause of the degradation of living standards and increasing poverty etc etc.
The sooner we get rid of them the better.

However, you are blaming the actions of New Labour and it’s aftermath, when they invited the world to come and live here “to wipe the Right’s nose in it” on Right Wingers, when history shows that’s not true at all.
Mandelson said they sent out search parties to get that policy going.
That all set into being international smuggling rings, and caravans stretching to all corners of the earth that are being added to every single day.

Blair’s Wars, and then Cameron’s war etc added to all that, and then Africans thought they’d join in and here we are.
Africans drowning trying to get to the bloody Canary Islands ffs!
I read an article on that recently, poor souls, that’s the Atlantic - not the channel.

Instead of your whining and blaming, wrongly, the RW - because people would probably be shot in the water by the people you try and portray in your fabrications, it would help if there was some international effort to either stop this dead, or make things easier and safer for people to migrate.

I’m fed up of people risking their lives to get here, or the Canary Islands etc. It’s an international problem that requires an international solution.

Please desist with your complete and utter bullshit, it’s more than annoying!

Quotas would be a nice thing. We need new people, and I’m sure other countries do too. We’ve a potential world war coming, both in Europe and the far east things could kick off. The blue touch paper is ready to be lit.

See what I mean Graf .. I mean look at this

Exactly - a diatribe of nonsensical twaddle.

xtras1 wrote:

LordRaven wrote:Graf old bean, your just a blabbering, RW hating buffoon!
McCarthy-like with his Reds under Beds crap.
I used to think you were a good poster in the News Section.
WTF has happened to you?

Not a big enough audience for you in the News section?
On that, I’ll agree with you.
What’s the point of all those different sections in News?
There are so few posters now, they should shut it and make everyone post news threads here.
It would liven the place up a bit.

But please, we all know this government is an uncaring, self centred, useless bunch of wankers.
We also know they’re the cause of the degradation of living standards and increasing poverty etc etc.
The sooner we get rid of them the better.

However, you are blaming the actions of New Labour and it’s aftermath, when they invited the world to come and live here “to wipe the Right’s nose in it” on Right Wingers, when history shows that’s not true at all.
Mandelson said they sent out search parties to get that policy going.
That all set into being international smuggling rings, and caravans stretching to all corners of the earth that are being added to every single day.

Blair’s Wars, and then Cameron’s war etc added to all that, and then Africans thought they’d join in and here we are.
Africans drowning trying to get to the bloody Canary Islands ffs!
I read an article on that recently, poor souls, that’s the Atlantic - not the channel.

Instead of your whining and blaming, wrongly, the RW - because people would probably be shot in the water by the people you try and portray in your fabrications, it would help if there was some international effort to either stop this dead, or make things easier and safer for people to migrate.

I’m fed up of people risking their lives to get here, or the Canary Islands etc. It’s an international problem that requires an international solution.

Please desist with your complete and utter bullshit, it’s more than annoying!

Quotas would be a nice thing. We need new people, and I’m sure other countries do too. We’ve a potential world war coming, both in Europe and the far east things could kick off. The blue touch paper is ready to be lit.

See what I mean Graf .. I mean look at this

LordRaven wrote:Graf old bean, your just a blabbering, RW hating buffoon!
McCarthy-like with his Reds under Beds crap.
I used to think you were a good poster in the News Section.
WTF has happened to you?

Not a big enough audience for you in the News section?
On that, I’ll agree with you.
What’s the point of all those different sections in News?
There are so few posters now, they should shut it and make everyone post news threads here.
It would liven the place up a bit.

But please, we all know this government is an uncaring, self centred, useless bunch of wankers.
We also know they’re the cause of the degradation of living standards and increasing poverty etc etc.
The sooner we get rid of them the better.

However, you are blaming the actions of New Labour and it’s aftermath, when they invited the world to come and live here “to wipe the Right’s nose in it” on Right Wingers, when history shows that’s not true at all.
Mandelson said they sent out search parties to get that policy going.
That all set into being international smuggling rings, and caravans stretching to all corners of the earth that are being added to every single day.

Blair’s Wars, and then Cameron’s war etc added to all that, and then Africans thought they’d join in and here we are.
Africans drowning trying to get to the bloody Canary Islands ffs!
I read an article on that recently, poor souls, that’s the Atlantic - not the channel.

Instead of your whining and blaming, wrongly, the RW - because people would probably be shot in the water by the people you try and portray in your fabrications, it would help if there was some international effort to either stop this dead, or make things easier and safer for people to migrate.

I’m fed up of people risking their lives to get here, or the Canary Islands etc. It’s an international problem that requires an international solution.

Please desist with your complete and utter bullshit, it’s more than annoying!

Quotas would be a nice thing. We need new people, and I’m sure other countries do too. We’ve a potential world war coming, both in Europe and the far east things could kick off. The blue touch paper is ready to be lit.

LordRaven wrote:

Grafenwalder wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

xtras1 wrote:Graf, you will never have a decent discussion with raven he doesn’t like to be wrong, not even wrong he doesn’t follow very well

Ah! Can you then explain what Graf is too scared to even attempt to answer.

Graf says that all Britain has to do to stop people crossing in dinghies is to set up a British Asylum Centre in Calais.

So Xtras, do what he is too frightened to do, explain how that would work?

Sound’s simple doesn’t it? So go ahead.

You're posting utter tripe and drivel. I'm not "scared" or "frightened" and have no reason to be either, you're being very silly now. As I've told you endless times before it's a far better solution than the one responsible for drowning people and the only reason some people don't want a safe passage for migrants is because they don't want them here.

https://www.france24.com/en/france/2021 ... nel-crisis

Read my last to Rollup with many of the same questions you simply refuse to answer and explain then?
Or are you a fucking halfwit trying to score political points out of the deaths of migrants?
Which is it to be?
Failure to explain means the latter.

Grafenwalder wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

xtras1 wrote:Graf, you will never have a decent discussion with raven he doesn’t like to be wrong, not even wrong he doesn’t follow very well

Ah! Can you then explain what Graf is too scared to even attempt to answer.

Graf says that all Britain has to do to stop people crossing in dinghies is to set up a British Asylum Centre in Calais.

So Xtras, do what he is too frightened to do, explain how that would work?

Sound’s simple doesn’t it? So go ahead.

You're posting utter tripe and drivel. I'm not "scared" or "frightened" and have no reason to be either, you're being very silly now. As I've told you endless times before it's a far better solution than the one responsible for drowning people and the only reason some people don't want a safe passage for migrants is because they don't want them here.

https://www.france24.com/en/france/2021 ... nel-crisis

Rolluplostinspace wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

xtras1 wrote:Graf, you will never have a decent discussion with raven he doesn’t like to be wrong, not even wrong he doesn’t follow very well

Graf says that all Britain has to do to stop people crossing in dinghies is to set up a British Asylum Centre in Calais.

That's not what he said.
He said it should be tried.
The French authorities would end up with responsibilities too which would be taking immigrants to the British centre and then kicking them out of France if they were rejected... bit like what England does.
This shouldn't even really be a UK problem but a European one.
First safe place of landing etc.
It's the language more than anything.

LordRaven wrote:

xtras1 wrote:Graf, you will never have a decent discussion with raven he doesn’t like to be wrong, not even wrong he doesn’t follow very well

Ah! Can you then explain what Graf is too scared to even attempt to answer.

Graf says that all Britain has to do to stop people crossing in dinghies is to set up a British Asylum Centre in Calais.

So Xtras, do what he is too frightened to do, explain how that would work?

Sound’s simple doesn’t it? So go ahead.

LordRaven wrote:

xtras1 wrote:Graf, you will never have a decent discussion with raven he doesn’t like to be wrong, not even wrong he doesn’t follow very well

Graf says that all Britain has to do to stop people crossing in dinghies is to set up a British Asylum Centre in Calais.