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Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Lady Murasaki » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:49 am

Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Trapper John wrote:If women didn't work and did what they are supposed to do, ie stay at home and look after the house and kids and ensure you have clean clothes and a dinner on the table for when you get home, we wouldn't have to be discussing this problem. :roll:

Bloody women, you let them out the house to work and this is what happens, we all knew they would never be satisfied and have to keep pushing and pushing. :shake head:


Does equality of opportunity in the workplace between the sexes intimidate you?


Not especially, and certainly not since immigrants have replaced them as the preferred choice of employers when looking for the cheapest alternatives to British men.

Did you know, an employer can now get an eastern European man, cheaper than they can get a British woman - I know, you would fathom it would you. :shake head:


Et viola, Thatchers wet dream of "There's no such thing as society" has come to fruition.
How do you like her now?

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by measurer » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:42 pm

Major wrote:So Mes love of my life..

Would YOU as owner of a small business employ a pregnant female who would obviously be taking time off from your small company or actually leaving causing you problems?????


Being a small business owner may do them a favour, as they aren't really out of pocket by that much...


All employers can claim back at least 92 per cent of the maternity pay given to employees.

But employees who paid less than £45,000 in Class 1 National Insurance Contributions last year – likely to be small business owners like you – can actually claim back 103 per cent of the maternity pay.



Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/expe ... z57rcVP42I

Taken from the Daily Fail, just so you believe..

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Avon Barksdale » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:03 pm

Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...


Undoubtedly and value to the business can depend on a number of variables which outweighs absence from it for a length of time.

With the rise of remote working in some sectors being physically present in the office isn't as important as it used to be.


Remote working or work from home (as it is called in my part of the world) is mostly applicable to the IT sector and accountant firms which is a very poor percentage of the total workforce. The business suffers where semi-skilled or non-skilled workers are required.


Remote working has more coverage over here and includes financial services, the legal sector, advertising, tech amongst other professional sectors. Maternity / paternity rights is set against the backdrop of a much bigger fight in the UK relating to flexible working practices (which encompasses remote working). There's a push for employers to offer more work / life balances options in employment and this (maternity leave) is one of those issues where fighting for it can benefit other workers generally. The heart of the issue is dealing with disruption caused by absence and the risk to the business of the employee not returning. Both of these issues can be accommodated by employers.

I take your point about semi / low skilled employment though and the difficulties that can bring as the business has to pick up the slack.

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Trapper John » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Trapper John wrote:If women didn't work and did what they are supposed to do, ie stay at home and look after the house and kids and ensure you have clean clothes and a dinner on the table for when you get home, we wouldn't have to be discussing this problem. :roll:

Bloody women, you let them out the house to work and this is what happens, we all knew they would never be satisfied and have to keep pushing and pushing. :shake head:


Does equality of opportunity in the workplace between the sexes intimidate you?


Not especially, and certainly not since immigrants have replaced them as the preferred choice of employers when looking for the cheapest alternatives to British men.

Did you know, an employer can now get an eastern European man, cheaper than they can get a British woman - I know, you would fathom it would you. :shake head:

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Keyser » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:22 pm

Snookerballs wrote:Emmeline Pankhurst has a lot to answer to !


The filthy bitch! :grrrrr: :brickwall: :Lucia:

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Rockstar » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:12 pm

Avon Barksdale wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...


Undoubtedly and value to the business can depend on a number of variables which outweighs absence from it for a length of time.

With the rise of remote working in some sectors being physically present in the office isn't as important as it used to be.


Remote working or work from home (as it is called in my part of the world) is mostly applicable to the IT sector and accountant firms which is a very poor percentage of the total workforce. The business suffers where semi-skilled or non-skilled workers are required.

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Avon Barksdale » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 pm

Dean wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...


Undoubtedly and value to the business can depend on a number of variables which outweighs absence from it for a length of time.

With the rise of remote working in some sectors being physically present in the office isn't as important as it used to be.


But what if the man had no arms or legs, couldn’t see and was deaf, and the pregnant woman had super powers and a cracking pair of tits? Stacking the deck in favour of your argument is easy... :roll:


Sure, in extreme cases the choice is easy.

When there are a number of competing variables finding which should take precedence is obviously harder but it doesn't automatically follow that it should be against the pregnant woman. Hiring doesn't really come down to equal candidates because if that was the case you may as well flip a coin to see who you would choose.

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Guest » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:53 pm

Dean wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...


Undoubtedly and value to the business can depend on a number of variables which outweighs absence from it for a length of time.

With the rise of remote working in some sectors being physically present in the office isn't as important as it used to be.


But what if the man had no arms or legs, couldn’t see and was deaf, and the pregnant woman had super powers and a cracking pair of tits? Stacking the deck in favour of your argument is easy... :roll:


:roll:

#teamavon

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Dean » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:49 pm

Avon Barksdale wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...


Undoubtedly and value to the business can depend on a number of variables which outweighs absence from it for a length of time.

With the rise of remote working in some sectors being physically present in the office isn't as important as it used to be.


But what if the man had no arms or legs, couldn’t see and was deaf, and the pregnant woman had super powers and a cracking pair of tits? Stacking the deck in favour of your argument is easy... :roll:

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Lady Murasaki » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:48 pm

Snookerballs wrote:Emmeline Pankhurst has a lot to answer to !


Yeah, we end up doing everybloodything! :grrrrr:

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Lady Murasaki » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:47 pm

Trapper John wrote:If women didn't work and did what they are supposed to do, ie stay at home and look after the house and kids and ensure you have clean clothes and a dinner on the table for when you get home, we wouldn't have to be discussing this problem. :roll:

Bloody women, you let them out the house to work and this is what happens, we all knew they would never be satisfied and have to keep pushing and pushing. :shake head:


Does equality of opportunity in the workplace between the sexes intimidate you?

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Snookerballs » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:46 pm

Emmeline Pankhurst has a lot to answer to !

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Avon Barksdale » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:43 pm

Rockstar wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...


Undoubtedly and value to the business can depend on a number of variables which outweighs absence from it for a length of time.

With the rise of remote working in some sectors being physically present in the office isn't as important as it used to be.

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Trapper John » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:40 pm

If women didn't work and did what they are supposed to do, ie stay at home and look after the house and kids and ensure you have clean clothes and a dinner on the table for when you get home, we wouldn't have to be discussing this problem. :roll:

Bloody women, you let them out the house to work and this is what happens, we all knew they would never be satisfied and have to keep pushing and pushing. :shake head:

Re: Pregnant When Applying For Employment.

Post by Rockstar » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:39 pm

Avon Barksdale wrote:
Yes, presuming all things are equal.

However, in the event that the pregnant candidate can bring more to the business over the medium to long term than the non-pregnant one then it is worth the short term inconvenience.


That's true for every indispensable employee in the eyes of the employer...

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