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Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Guest » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:26 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Turning Russia's rich soil into riches
There are almost 100 million acres of farm land lying deserted and unfarmed in one of the world's most fertile areas - land that could feed millions of people.
This is not a doomsday scenario, it is a Russian reality.
At a time when world food prices are causing hunger and poverty for millions of people around the world, it might at first seem criminal. But those high prices could actually see the land once again bearing food for >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7528850.stm


Frosty says it isn't lush.

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:54 pm

Turning Russia's rich soil into riches
There are almost 100 million acres of farm land lying deserted and unfarmed in one of the world's most fertile areas - land that could feed millions of people.
This is not a doomsday scenario, it is a Russian reality.
At a time when world food prices are causing hunger and poverty for millions of people around the world, it might at first seem criminal. But those high prices could actually see the land once again bearing food for >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7528850.stm

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Guest » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:50 pm

Guest wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:I said we are in the process of a 3 million year ice age
and we are in a Holocene warming period
that is natural and not man made


says who?


:again?:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Big Fat Frosty » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:26 pm

Guest wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:lets get into the geopolitical theory of global warming
scenario A
the ice caps wane
earth warms
Russia Scandinavia Canada all become lush and fertile
uk becomes tropical
largely peasant people from the equator want to move north
scenario B
the ice caps grow
a massive glacier moves south
the heavily armed America EU and Russian people etc
need to move south
which scenario is most beneficial to the future of mankind
:dunno:


How is scenario B gonna happen when scenario A is well under way?
As for Russia being lush and fertile, it is already, don't you mean Siberia? :gigglesnshit:

Russia can hardly be described as lush
but yes it will resemble Kansas Dorothy
one day
:thumbsup:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by njp » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:25 pm

Big Fat Frosty wrote:
njp wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:I said we are in the process of a 3 million year ice age
and we are in a Holocene warming period
that is natural and not man made


as we head towards the next glaciation in a few tens of thousands of years. ?

so you are admitting the natural climate system of warming and cooling
at last we are getting somewhere
:thumbsup:


It would be very odd for me to deny the existence of the very things that climate scientists have spent many decades studying and writing about. I leave science denial to uneducated dimwits like you.

The point is that the natural trajectory of the climate system would have been cooling, not warming, were it not for human intervention. Radiative forcing from our CO2 emissions currently overrides all natural forcings.

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Guest » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:13 pm

Big Fat Frosty wrote:lets get into the geopolitical theory of global warming
scenario A
the ice caps wane
earth warms
Russia Scandinavia Canada all become lush and fertile
uk becomes tropical
largely peasant people from the equator want to move north
scenario B
the ice caps grow
a massive glacier moves south
the heavily armed America EU and Russian people etc
need to move south
which scenario is most beneficial to the future of mankind
:dunno:


How is scenario B gonna happen when scenario A is well under way?
As for Russia being lush and fertile, it is already, don't you mean Siberia? :gigglesnshit:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Big Fat Frosty » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:10 pm

lets get into the geopolitical theory of global warming
scenario A
the ice caps wane
earth warms
Russia Scandinavia Canada all become lush and fertile
uk becomes tropical
largely peasant people from the equator want to move north
scenario B
the ice caps grow
a massive glacier moves south
the heavily armed America EU and Russian people etc
need to move south
which scenario is most beneficial to the future of mankind
:dunno:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Big Fat Frosty » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:33 pm

njp wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:I said we are in the process of a 3 million year ice age
and we are in a Holocene warming period
that is natural and not man made


as we head towards the next glaciation in a few tens of thousands of years. ?

so you are admitting the natural climate system of warming and cooling
at last we are getting somewhere
:thumbsup:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by njp » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:46 pm

Big Fat Frosty wrote:I said we are in the process of a 3 million year ice age
and we are in a Holocene warming period
that is natural and not man made


Well, that's all very strange, given that science says that the climate system should be slowly cooling, as we head towards the next glaciation in a few tens of thousands of years. Instead, we see an abrupt uptick as the climate warms at a rate that appears to be unprecedented in the paleoclimate record (you know, the one you refer to when it suits you).

What does your arse plucking research tell you are the natural causes underpinning this warming, that normal science has failed to detect?

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Guest » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:35 pm

Big Fat Frosty wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:not a fan of plastics personally
I think if it can be made of wood, metal or glass it should be
I use Pyrex dishes as Tupperware
heating food in plastic isn't a good idea
it releases phalates which are said to be dna altering
:ooer:


So you agree we should be adjusting our behaviour to lower the need and consumption of plastics to help the environment?
Isn't that a big part of recycling?

I recycle I am very green
but greenpeace has been hijacked by the warmistas
and all that good stuff has been largely replace by carbon emission bullshit


But lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Clearly it's a money generating business now and should be subject to scrutiny but the effect of emissions cannot be ignored.

clearly money is more important than the climate
:cuppaT:


that's why oil companies are spending tens of millions of dollars on fake news like there's no such thing as the earth temps rising

good call

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Guest » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:31 pm

Big Fat Frosty wrote:I said we are in the process of a 3 million year ice age
and we are in a Holocene warming period
that is natural and not man made


says who?

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Big Fat Frosty » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:22 pm

I said we are in the process of a 3 million year ice age
and we are in a Holocene warming period
that is natural and not man made

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Big Fat Frosty » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:20 pm

Guest wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:
Guest wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:no new warming for 16 years the ipcc even admit that
co2 levels are not the holy grail as historic values show
In 2010 the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences published a study of the earth's climate 460-445 million years ago which found that an intense period of glaciation, not warming, occurred when CO2 levels were 5 times higher than they are today
the data has been exploited and inflated
Image


How many of the last 17 years have been the warmest on record?
Is the answer 16?
and that graph shows there is dramatic warming. :gigglesnshit:
Even for the climate change denying Mail to print that is saying something.

but nowhere near as the hysterical warmista predictions
im not denying were in a Holocene Warming Period
just what is causing it
:thumbsup:
just repeating but its hotter its hotter
doesn't prove agw
it simply doesnt


You said we are cooling. :woteva:
:

link to where I said that...
outright lie
:dunno:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Big Fat Frosty » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:12 pm

Stooo wrote:BFF, beaten like a ginger headed step kid, sad times... :shake head:

never took u 4 a warmista
sad times indeed
:shake head:

Re: Global Warming Deniers and Liars

Post by Guest » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:05 pm

njp wrote:
Big Fat Frosty wrote:yes there good at excuses
accurate temperature readings have only been available for 100 years
the world was however a lot warmer 2000 years ago by farming and anecdotal historic evidence
so your tiny time frame as fact is a ludicrous proposal
in an event that stretches eons


By whose farming and anecdotal evidence?

This is just more crap you've pulled out of your own or someone else's arse.

Have you chosen a new volcano to lie about yet, or are you sticking with Krakatoa?


The burning Iraqi oil fields in Desert StormX2 and ISIS last summer did x2.4 what Krakatoa did.

Image

Note to TJ note the black smoke. :gigglesnshit:

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