by LordRaven » Wed May 27, 2015 1:06 pm
sleepysam wrote:uh oh.. the UK needs to stick with the EU.. it is nothing without it. first the tories took away all our nationalised industry and sold them to european countries, and now they want to take us out of the eu! cheers! - what exactly are they trying to do????
You need to read up on the root causes and as to why Harold Wilson started the closing down of British Industry before making such innacurate posts...
Hard luck story
We all know the easy British explanation for our cumulative export defeat in world markets from the 1950s onwards, especially at the hands of the Germans. This story tells us that lucky West Germany had all her industries and infrastructure bombed flat or removed as reparations, and then was able to re-equip herself from scratch with Marshall Aid dollars. Meanwhile, so this hard-luck story goes on, poor old Britain had to struggle on with worn-out and old-fashioned kit.
Britain actually received more than a third more Marshall Aid than West Germany ...
This is utter myth. Britain actually received more than a third more Marshall Aid than West Germany - $2.7 billion as against $1.7 billion. She in fact pocketed the largest share of any European nation. The truth is that the post-war Labour Government, advised by its resident economic pundits, freely chose not to make industrial modernisation the central theme in her use of Marshall Aid.http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/mo ... l_01.shtmlHad Labour only backed and modernised British Industry by taking a long term view to create jobs wealth and prosperity???
Our War Time economy showed what great inventors and manuafacturers this country porduced.
If only the post war Labour government had not turned its back on industry whilst West Germany and France poured money into modernisation.
Within a decade our obsolete factories were turning out obsolete unexportable goods and over the course of the next two it was obvious we could not compete.
We churned out overly expensive, unexportable crap and that meant we were doomed.
Now compare that today when the Japanese have poured £Billions into MODERN car making Factories here--we now export more cars than Germany.
Proof, were it ever needed, there was never anything wrong with the workforce, just a failure by post war Labour government.
[quote="sleepysam"]uh oh.. the UK needs to stick with the EU.. it is nothing without it. first the tories took away all our nationalised industry and sold them to european countries, and now they want to take us out of the eu! cheers! - what exactly are they trying to do????[/quote]
You need to read up on the root causes and as to why Harold Wilson started the closing down of British Industry before making such innacurate posts...
[b][size=150]Hard luck story
We all know the easy British explanation for our cumulative export defeat in world markets from the 1950s onwards, especially at the hands of the Germans. This story tells us that lucky West Germany had all her industries and infrastructure bombed flat or removed as reparations, and then was able to re-equip herself from scratch with Marshall Aid dollars. Meanwhile, so this hard-luck story goes on, poor old Britain had to struggle on with worn-out and old-fashioned kit.
Britain actually received more than a third more Marshall Aid than West Germany ...
This is utter myth. Britain actually received more than a third more Marshall Aid than West Germany - $2.7 billion as against $1.7 billion. She in fact pocketed the largest share of any European nation. The truth is that the post-war Labour Government, advised by its resident economic pundits, freely chose not to make industrial modernisation the central theme in her use of Marshall Aid.[/size][/b]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtml
Had Labour only backed and modernised British Industry by taking a long term view to create jobs wealth and prosperity???
Our War Time economy showed what great inventors and manuafacturers this country porduced.
If only the post war Labour government had not turned its back on industry whilst West Germany and France poured money into modernisation.
Within a decade our obsolete factories were turning out obsolete unexportable goods and over the course of the next two it was obvious we could not compete.
We churned out overly expensive, unexportable crap and that meant we were doomed.
Now compare that today when the Japanese have poured £Billions into MODERN car making Factories here--we now export more cars than Germany.
Proof, were it ever needed, there was never anything wrong with the workforce, just a failure by post war Labour government.