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Vamonos wrote:Probably not true...but...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3078579/Three-British-teenage-Jihadi-brides-married-militants-Iraq-run-Isis-escaping.html

Trapper John wrote:

Si_Crewe wrote:The whole "fuck 'em, let 'em go" attitude seems rather daft to me.

It's not that I have any particular sympathy for the people who've gone but it seems naive in the extreme to simply assume not caring about those who've gone should be the limit of our concern.

To me, that's kinda like the police showing up at the scene of a car crash and saying "Ah, fuck 'em. That'll teach them to drive properly" rather than bothering to find out whether all the cars involved were in proper working order, whether there's something unsafe about the road, whether another vehicle actually caused the crash, whether all the drivers were fit to drive or if there was any other reason for the crash.

If you don't care to consider all that stuff, you're never going to prevent other car crashes happening - and some of them WILL involve innocent people.

Seems like a similar thing here.
I don't believe that all those who've toddled off to Syria are poor, innocent, gullible, suckers but I'd bet that there ARE causal factors which have led to them allowing themselves to be indoctrinated with extremist ideals and if we don't bother our arses to try and discover what those factors are the situation is never going to improve.

And bear in mind that not all of these "traitorous cunts/whores" are just quietly fucking off to Syria. Some of them are staying here to blow up buses and trains or chop heads off passing squaddies.

There is a big difference with your example - first it is the Police's duty to turn up at car crashes where life has been endangered, in fact it is the law - Whereas it is totally not against the law for people to travel to any country in the world they want to, if that country allows them in - it certainly has nothing to do with us.

So why are we getting other countries to arrest people and then paying for them to be flown back to the UK, if they aren't breaking any UK laws? - If they want to go, let them go - just don't let them back when they've had enough.

Si_Crewe wrote:The whole "fuck 'em, let 'em go" attitude seems rather daft to me.

It's not that I have any particular sympathy for the people who've gone but it seems naive in the extreme to simply assume not caring about those who've gone should be the limit of our concern.

To me, that's kinda like the police showing up at the scene of a car crash and saying "Ah, fuck 'em. That'll teach them to drive properly" rather than bothering to find out whether all the cars involved were in proper working order, whether there's something unsafe about the road, whether another vehicle actually caused the crash, whether all the drivers were fit to drive or if there was any other reason for the crash.

If you don't care to consider all that stuff, you're never going to prevent other car crashes happening - and some of them WILL involve innocent people.

Seems like a similar thing here.
I don't believe that all those who've toddled off to Syria are poor, innocent, gullible, suckers but I'd bet that there ARE causal factors which have led to them allowing themselves to be indoctrinated with extremist ideals and if we don't bother our arses to try and discover what those factors are the situation is never going to improve.

And bear in mind that not all of these "traitorous cunts/whores" are just quietly fucking off to Syria. Some of them are staying here to blow up buses and trains or chop heads off passing squaddies.

Si_Crewe wrote:The whole "fuck 'em, let 'em go" attitude seems rather daft to me.

It's not that I have any particular sympathy for the people who've gone but it seems naive in the extreme to simply assume not caring about those who've gone should be the limit of our concern.

To me, that's kinda like the police showing up at the scene of a car crash and saying "Ah, fuck 'em. That'll teach them to drive properly" rather than bothering to find out whether all the cars involved were in proper working order, whether there's something unsafe about the road, whether another vehicle actually caused the crash, whether all the drivers were fit to drive or if there was any other reason for the crash.

If you don't care to consider all that stuff, you're never going to prevent other car crashes happening - and some of them WILL involve innocent people.

Seems like a similar thing here.
I don't believe that all those who've toddled off to Syria are poor, innocent, gullible, suckers but I'd bet that there ARE causal factors which have led to them allowing themselves to be indoctrinated with extremist ideals and if we don't bother our arses to try and discover what those factors are the situation is never going to improve.

And bear in mind that not all of these "traitorous cunts/whores" are just quietly fucking off to Syria. Some of them are staying here to blow up buses and trains or chop heads off passing squaddies.

Guest wrote:

Puzzler wrote:

The three east London schoolgirls who fled the UK for Syria have joined a fearsome group of British female jihadis who run the lslamic State's ultra-religious police force, it has been reported.

Shamima Begum and Amira Abase, both 15, and Kadiza Sultana, 16, crossed over the Turkish-Syrian border last February and are believed to be living in the Syrian city of Raqqa.

Begum has forged social media links with three of the British leaders of the al-Khansa brigade – an all-women militia set up by the terror group a year ago – and it is understood the trio are now training with one of the notorious females arms of ISIS.

Covered in black from head-to-toe and wielding automatic weapons, the group has been accused of doling out savage beatings on the streets of Raqqa and spying on its citizens.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3Xw0attk9
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Surprise surprise.....told you they were just evil and not misguided teens.

the daily Heil
the bastion of accuracy
remember puzzie they supported the NAZIs and you apparently hate NAZIs

no evidence just claimed, accused etc hearsay ain't evidence

Puzzler wrote:

The three east London schoolgirls who fled the UK for Syria have joined a fearsome group of British female jihadis who run the lslamic State's ultra-religious police force, it has been reported.

Shamima Begum and Amira Abase, both 15, and Kadiza Sultana, 16, crossed over the Turkish-Syrian border last February and are believed to be living in the Syrian city of Raqqa.

Begum has forged social media links with three of the British leaders of the al-Khansa brigade – an all-women militia set up by the terror group a year ago – and it is understood the trio are now training with one of the notorious females arms of ISIS.

Covered in black from head-to-toe and wielding automatic weapons, the group has been accused of doling out savage beatings on the streets of Raqqa and spying on its citizens.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3Xw0attk9
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Surprise surprise.....told you they were just evil and not misguided teens.

The three east London schoolgirls who fled the UK for Syria have joined a fearsome group of British female jihadis who run the lslamic State's ultra-religious police force, it has been reported.

Shamima Begum and Amira Abase, both 15, and Kadiza Sultana, 16, crossed over the Turkish-Syrian border last February and are believed to be living in the Syrian city of Raqqa.

Begum has forged social media links with three of the British leaders of the al-Khansa brigade – an all-women militia set up by the terror group a year ago – and it is understood the trio are now training with one of the notorious females arms of ISIS.

Covered in black from head-to-toe and wielding automatic weapons, the group has been accused of doling out savage beatings on the streets of Raqqa and spying on its citizens.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3Xw0attk9
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:

LordRaven wrote:Can you not remember the name of the independent candidate you claim drinks in your local and with whom you have discussed policy - how strange?

Check name of Thread....

Why Are We Fawning Over Traitors? - Lock Up Or Get Rid!

How does the name of the thread affect your inability to remember the name of the independent candidate you claim drinks in your local and with whom you have discussed policy?

So the name of a thread means nothing to your desire to troll?

Okay fine!

Aziz wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:

LordRaven wrote:Can you not remember the name of the independent candidate you claim drinks in your local and with whom you have discussed policy - how strange?

Check name of Thread....

Why Are We Fawning Over Traitors? - Lock Up Or Get Rid!

How does the name of the thread affect your inability to remember the name of the independent candidate you claim drinks in your local and with whom you have discussed policy?

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:Name of the candidate, Craven?

You just caught out lying about this very thing in news section and now you drag it over into the arms too???

You said you have seen the names of the candidates yes? So please?

Can you not remember the name of the independent candidate you claim drinks in your local and with whom you have discussed policy - how strange?

Check name of Thread....

Why Are We Fawning Over Traitors? - Lock Up Or Get Rid!

Aziz wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:Name of the candidate, Craven?

You just caught out lying about this very thing in news section and now you drag it over into the arms too???

You said you have seen the names of the candidates yes? So please?

Can you not remember the name of the independent candidate you claim drinks in your local and with whom you have discussed policy - how strange?

LordRaven wrote:

Aziz wrote:Name of the candidate, Craven?

You just caught out lying about this very thing in news section and now you drag it over into the arms too???

You said you have seen the names of the candidates yes? So please?

Aziz wrote:Name of the candidate, Craven?