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wutang wrote:

Maddog wrote:The ticket is the summons. She (and everyone else) has choices. Sign the ticket or go to jail. She is obviously a pretty shitty mother. Most people with a child in the car, and one on the way, would never be so stupid as to force cops to remove her from the car and take her to jail. What pregnant woman wants to go to jail over signing a damn ticket. Ever been to jail? They are dirty nasty places. Not a place where a sane pregnant woman would want to be, especially if all she had to do was sign the ticket.

For a libertarian you are very authoritarian in your viewpoints

If all well saying she should have done this and done that but what kind of person would manhandle a woman who was 7 months pregnant over a frigging speeding ticket... oh right, a cop would

Maddog wrote:The ticket is the summons. She (and everyone else) has choices. Sign the ticket or go to jail. She is obviously a pretty shitty mother. Most people with a child in the car, and one on the way, would never be so stupid as to force cops to remove her from the car and take her to jail. What pregnant woman wants to go to jail over signing a damn ticket. Ever been to jail? They are dirty nasty places. Not a place where a sane pregnant woman would want to be, especially if all she had to do was sign the ticket.

wutang wrote:

Maddog wrote:Tickets always say quite clearly, that signing it is not an admission of guilt. I have got a shitload of tickets over the years and the cops always tell you that it's not an admission of guilt, but a promise to appear in court. This woman was an idiot for acting this way in front of her child. She forced the cops to arrest her, in front of her child. Taser or not, it was going to be a physical confrontation to get her out of that car. No need to act like that in front of her kid.

Cops could have handled it completely fucking differently... y'know with a bit more sense, she was 7 months pregnant, would you manhandle someone in that condition? for what? a speeding ticket. Couldnt they have just taken her detail and mailed a summons? What if she had lost the kid (thankfully she didnt) because of the way they tasered the shit out of her, before dragging her about? would she have deserved to have her child 'miscarriaged by cop' in your eyes (like the woman who was kicked in stomach by a cop when 9 months pregnant nearly did**)


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Maddog wrote:Tickets always say quite clearly, that signing it is not an admission of guilt. I have got a shitload of tickets over the years and the cops always tell you that it's not an admission of guilt, but a promise to appear in court. This woman was an idiot for acting this way in front of her child. She forced the cops to arrest her, in front of her child. Taser or not, it was going to be a physical confrontation to get her out of that car. No need to act like that in front of her kid.

wutang wrote:Woman 7-months pregnant tasered 3 time by cops over a speeding ticket

The case involves Malaika Brooks, who was seven months pregnant and driving her 11-year-old son to school in Seattle when she was pulled over for speeding. The police say she was going 32 miles per hour in a school zone; the speed limit was 20.

Ms. Brooks said she would accept a ticket but drew the line at signing it, which state law required at the time. Ms. Brooks thought, wrongly, that signing was an acknowledgment of guilt.

Refusing to sign was a crime, and the two officers on the scene summoned a sergeant, who instructed them to arrest Ms. Brooks. She would not get out of her car.

The situation plainly called for bold action, and Officer Juan M. Ornelas met the challenge by brandishing a Taser and asking Ms. Brooks if she knew what it was.

She did not, but she told Officer Ornelas what she did know. “I have to go to the bathroom,” she said. “I am pregnant. I’m less than 60 days from having my baby.”

The three men assessed the situation and conferred. “Well, don’t do it in her stomach,” one said. “Do it in her thigh.”

Officer Ornelas twisted Ms. Brooks’s arm behind her back. A colleague, Officer Donald M. Jones, applied the Taser to Ms. Brooks’s left thigh, causing her to cry out and honk the car’s horn. A half-minute later, Officer Jones applied the Taser again, now to Ms. Brooks’s left arm. He waited six seconds before pressing it into her neck.

Ms. Brooks fell over, and the officers dragged her into the street, laying her face down and cuffing her hands behind her back

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/us/po ... d=fb-share

The case involves Malaika Brooks, who was seven months pregnant and driving her 11-year-old son to school in Seattle when she was pulled over for speeding. The police say she was going 32 miles per hour in a school zone; the speed limit was 20.

Ms. Brooks said she would accept a ticket but drew the line at signing it, which state law required at the time. Ms. Brooks thought, wrongly, that signing was an acknowledgment of guilt.

Refusing to sign was a crime, and the two officers on the scene summoned a sergeant, who instructed them to arrest Ms. Brooks. She would not get out of her car.

The situation plainly called for bold action, and Officer Juan M. Ornelas met the challenge by brandishing a Taser and asking Ms. Brooks if she knew what it was.

She did not, but she told Officer Ornelas what she did know. “I have to go to the bathroom,” she said. “I am pregnant. I’m less than 60 days from having my baby.”

The three men assessed the situation and conferred. “Well, don’t do it in her stomach,” one said. “Do it in her thigh.”

Officer Ornelas twisted Ms. Brooks’s arm behind her back. A colleague, Officer Donald M. Jones, applied the Taser to Ms. Brooks’s left thigh, causing her to cry out and honk the car’s horn. A half-minute later, Officer Jones applied the Taser again, now to Ms. Brooks’s left arm. He waited six seconds before pressing it into her neck.

Ms. Brooks fell over, and the officers dragged her into the street, laying her face down and cuffing her hands behind her back

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/us/po ... d=fb-share

wutang wrote:A 20-year-old woman has been left brain dead - after she was Tasered by police and smacked her head on the ground.
Danielle Maudsley had been taken to a Florida Highway Patrol Station after being arrested for a suspected hit-and-run in September. Handcuffed, she ran out of the door.

But as footage from a police cruiser dashboard camera reveals, Trooper Daniel Cole, who this week was cleared of any wrongdoing, fired a Taser's electric probes into her back.

She spun, fell backwards and hit her head on the ground. Bleeding and crying she tried to get up. She then blacked out and has remained unconscious ever since.

Doctors say Danielle, who was found to have cocaine and oxycodone in her system at the time, is unlikely to ever wake up.

Her mother Cheryl has slammed the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles and Florida Department of Law Enforcement for its reports that both cleared Cole.

Video of the incident here

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/w ... 6277764640

She was handcuffed and within reaching distance of the Cop... he decided to just taser her instead. Now she is brain damaged and may never awake.

wutang wrote:A 20-year-old woman has been left brain dead - after she was Tasered by police and smacked her head on the ground.
Danielle Maudsley had been taken to a Florida Highway Patrol Station after being arrested for a suspected hit-and-run in September. Handcuffed, she ran out of the door.

But as footage from a police cruiser dashboard camera reveals, Trooper Daniel Cole, who this week was cleared of any wrongdoing, fired a Taser's electric probes into her back.

She spun, fell backwards and hit her head on the ground. Bleeding and crying she tried to get up. She then blacked out and has remained unconscious ever since.

Doctors say Danielle, who was found to have cocaine and oxycodone in her system at the time, is unlikely to ever wake up.

Her mother Cheryl has slammed the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles and Florida Department of Law Enforcement for its reports that both cleared Cole.

Video of the incident here

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/w ... 6277764640

She was handcuffed and within reaching distance of the Cop... he decided to just taser her instead. Now she is brain damaged and may never awake.

Anyone who had undergone rudimentary training with the JPX would understand that the weapon should not be fired directly into the head or face of a non-violent suspect. Clark's actions suggest that his intention was not to gain "compliance," but rather to inflict summary street punishment for "contempt of cop."