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Re: October or November 2024

Post by Stooo » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:31 pm

Cannydc wrote:Six months on - SitRep.

No boats stopped.

Economy flatlined as forecast.

Tories polling at 20%, Labour 43%, still looks like landslide territory.

Crisis after crisis hits government, Wragg and Menzies are the latest.

Tory MPs announcing they won't stand at the next election has gone from a trickle to a flood.

Happy St George's Day and can we have an election, PLEASE?


He's waiting on a blip. The wise people are calling mid-November but if he thinks that the Rwanda bollocks means anything to anyone other than the thugs in Whitehall today then he's seriously deluded, but it may launch a July date if there's a slight upturn in the polls.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Cannydc » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:07 pm

Six months on - SitRep.

No boats stopped.

Economy flatlined as forecast.

Tories polling at 20%, Labour 43%, still looks like landslide territory.

Crisis after crisis hits government, Wragg and Menzies are the latest.

Tory MPs announcing they won't stand at the next election has gone from a trickle to a flood.

Happy St George's Day and can we have an election, PLEASE?

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Cannydc » Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:31 pm

common sense wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
That's one of the reasons why I see May next year as the most likely time for an election. Spending plans will all be fixed and department budgets set, probably with a few pre-election bribes that will be fresh in the voters minds and a few sneaky land mines that won't go off until a few months later that will mean those bribes have to be clawed back or cancelled giving the press a reason to attack the new Labour administration



I still think next Oct as they'll hand on for as long as they can to their salaries and expenses and ministerial perks.

No way back. They'll be annihalated whenever they have it.


Latest indications are that it won't be Oct/Nov 2024 because that's when the Septics vote for their next demented old president.

Sunak today (one year into job) waffled on about how things can change in the next year, so expect Jan 25!!!

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Stooo » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:02 pm

common sense wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
That's one of the reasons why I see May next year as the most likely time for an election. Spending plans will all be fixed and department budgets set, probably with a few pre-election bribes that will be fresh in the voters minds and a few sneaky land mines that won't go off until a few months later that will mean those bribes have to be clawed back or cancelled giving the press a reason to attack the new Labour administration



I still think next Oct as they'll hand on for as long as they can to their salaries and expenses and ministerial perks.

No way back. They'll be annihalated whenever they have it.


It's also a low turnout due to the weather, I've got a nest of Lib-Dem Focus leaflets to post tomorrow and I'm not going to be a happy bunny if it's pissing down and cold. Dial in the gerrymandering caused by photo ID as confirmed by Rees-Mogg we will have a low turnout and highly motivated electorate who will probably not vote tory, my ward may well return a conservative MP but that's mainly because he does the nursing home tours and relies on postal votes.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by common sense » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:02 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
That's one of the reasons why I see May next year as the most likely time for an election. Spending plans will all be fixed and department budgets set, probably with a few pre-election bribes that will be fresh in the voters minds and a few sneaky land mines that won't go off until a few months later that will mean those bribes have to be clawed back or cancelled giving the press a reason to attack the new Labour administration



I still think next Oct as they'll hand on for as long as they can to their salaries and expenses and ministerial perks.

No way back. They'll be annihalated whenever they have it.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Cactus Jack » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:34 pm

I don't think the state pension will go as badly for the Tories as not undoing the triple lock will go

The Triple Lock can be said to have 'done it's job' - with a prolonged period of inflation at or below 2% and pensions rising by at least 2.5% the Tories have got a window in which to ditch the guarantee. They can say it's short term, war in Ukraine, Dunkirk spirit and all that, but essentially the older Tory voters don't need it so much with interest rates up so high, private pension pots are growing very nicely thank you and more egalitarian older people know the money is better spent on better public services for them - they won't get better public services from the Tories but it's a line to take.

That's one of the reasons why I see May next year as the most likely time for an election. Spending plans will all be fixed and department budgets set, probably with a few pre-election bribes that will be fresh in the voters minds and a few sneaky land mines that won't go off until a few months later that will mean those bribes have to be clawed back or cancelled giving the press a reason to attack the new Labour administration

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Stooo » Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:53 pm

Cannydc wrote:5 months on, here I am again.

Inflation dropped a bit but nothing dropping in price, nor will it.

Doctors still striking, as are rail workers.

NHS crisis grows.

The boats haven't been stopped, no-one has been deported to Rwanda though a few have been dumped on a barge to catch Legionella.

Oh, and a multitude of right wing grifters were triggered by the sight of a sea of EU flags at the last night of the proms.

Finally, no election on the horizon. Oct/Nov next year still likely for me.


Dangerous dogs and sponging invalids as well as the JSA scroungers, let alone vapes.

Meanwhile the state pension will be devalued and continue to be the poorest in the first world.

Election, do you think it will take that long? I would go for Spring.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Cannydc » Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:46 am

5 months on, here I am again.

Inflation dropped a bit but nothing dropping in price, nor will it.

Doctors still striking, as are rail workers.

NHS crisis grows.

The boats haven't been stopped, no-one has been deported to Rwanda though a few have been dumped on a barge to catch Legionella.

Oh, and a multitude of right wing grifters were triggered by the sight of a sea of EU flags at the last night of the proms.

Finally, no election on the horizon. Oct/Nov next year still likely for me.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Stooo » Sun May 14, 2023 1:39 pm

common sense wrote:SIGHS. Talk about dumping Sunak now and getting Gove in or even Boris. Not again FFS! Will do no good. Let Rishi do his best now.


It's time to just get rid of them at a GE. Johnson is moving to Henley because S.Ruislip and Uxbridge don't want him and the party is totally split between kippers and trad tories, the best thing that both factions can do is to support PR because it's the only way that they will have a voice in Parliament in the future.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by common sense » Sun May 14, 2023 8:59 am

SIGHS. Talk about dumping Sunak now and getting Gove in or even Boris. Not again FFS! Will do no good. Let Rishi do his best now.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Stooo » Sat May 13, 2023 5:37 pm

common sense wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:First I echo those who welcome Canny's return.

Second let's be fair to Common Sense. The reason the Tories are waiting is so that things have time to get better, unforunately the Tories seem incapable of getting out of their own way for any more than two weeks at a time. They will run on their culture wars because it's all they have but do you really care if there are two copies of James and the Giant Peach on the book shops instead of one? Which will affect your day to day life more, the next James Bond onbeing a one legged Black lesbian or being unable to afford your mortgage payments?

People will see through the culture wars unless a lot of things start going a lot better and having a billionaire backed vanity channel to amplify the nonsense won't help


I was joking btw. I can't see them winning in a million years. The only thing in question is the size of Labour's majority.

Sleepy Joe will get back in the US. Trump will be the nominee for the Repuns but won't win.


It's factored in, Labour members want PR but declaring it in a manifesto would be problematic because of the shit press. LD's are predicted to take enough blue votes to forge a coalition and it's the No.1 demand with no stupid ref that was the training ground for brexit this time.

We need representative votes in all of our elections.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by common sense » Sat May 13, 2023 5:09 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:First I echo those who welcome Canny's return.

Second let's be fair to Common Sense. The reason the Tories are waiting is so that things have time to get better, unforunately the Tories seem incapable of getting out of their own way for any more than two weeks at a time. They will run on their culture wars because it's all they have but do you really care if there are two copies of James and the Giant Peach on the book shops instead of one? Which will affect your day to day life more, the next James Bond onbeing a one legged Black lesbian or being unable to afford your mortgage payments?

People will see through the culture wars unless a lot of things start going a lot better and having a billionaire backed vanity channel to amplify the nonsense won't help


I was joking btw. I can't see them winning in a million years. The only thing in question is the size of Labour's majority.

Sleepy Joe will get back in the US. Trump will be the nominee for the Repuns but won't win.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Cannydc » Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:49 am

Cactus Jack wrote:First I echo those who welcome Canny's return.

Second let's be fair to Common Sense. The reason the Tories are waiting is so that things have time to get better, unforunately the Tories seem incapable of getting out of their own way for any more than two weeks at a time. They will run on their culture wars because it's all they have but do you really care if there are two copies of James and the Giant Peach on the book shops instead of one? Which will affect your day to day life more, the next James Bond onbeing a one legged Black lesbian or being unable to afford your mortgage payments?

People will see through the culture wars unless a lot of things start going a lot better and having a billionaire backed vanity channel to amplify the nonsense won't help


Hi CJ (and Text, of course).

I pop in from time to time but rarely post. The thing about Tory election hopes is, as you say, the blind optimism that things will improve.

Inflation will drop, but prices won't - that 40%+ on food prices is here to stay.

They will never 'stop the boats' - the trafficker's business model won't change no matter how many asylum seekers are sent to Rwanda (current count - ZERO).

Our economy is forecast to flatline.

Meanwhile, good luck to all anti-Tories in the local elections. As usual the Tories are managing expectations (might lose 1,000 seats) - I hope for more lol, but a fair result will cost them 5-600.

Love and peace

Canny.

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Cactus Jack » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:22 pm

First I echo those who welcome Canny's return.

Second let's be fair to Common Sense. The reason the Tories are waiting is so that things have time to get better, unforunately the Tories seem incapable of getting out of their own way for any more than two weeks at a time. They will run on their culture wars because it's all they have but do you really care if there are two copies of James and the Giant Peach on the book shops instead of one? Which will affect your day to day life more, the next James Bond onbeing a one legged Black lesbian or being unable to afford your mortgage payments?

People will see through the culture wars unless a lot of things start going a lot better and having a billionaire backed vanity channel to amplify the nonsense won't help

Re: October or November 2024

Post by Text » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:47 pm

Cannydc wrote:Seems that Tory HQ have pencilled in that time for the election, hoping for an economic and political miracle in the meantime.

I don't think a week has gone by without some disaster befalling them, another 75 weeks seems like a lifetime.

Even the downfall of Sturgeon and a slump in SNP popularity is against them as it will be Labour picking up seats.

Well, that's me for now. Back into hibernation until next Autumn.

Peace, Love and a Labour Government!


Delighted to see you Mr DC, wish you'd drop by more often. :razz:

Sunak will use culture wars as the main basis for the 2024 GE campaign. He has no other weapon but don't under-estimate the tory war machine.
They have BIG money behind them, & the solid backing of billionaire offshore investors & media barons.
The whole point of a tory govt's existence is to funnel public money into private hands. Then they balance their books by cutting all public services to the bone. Sorted.

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