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Re: Government Corruption

Post by Cactus Jack » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:01 pm

Stooo wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:English people will still vote Tory.

They've been successfully indoctrinated over a period of 30 years by the press and by any kind of critical thinking being discouraged.


'Looks sideways in English' :ooer:

Nah, just around 30% of us.

You have to acknowledge the people in Scotland and Wales don't vote Tory.

I'll give you that some people - quite a lot - in Northern Ireland vote DUP which is even worse than Tory

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Stooo » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:54 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:English people will still vote Tory.

They've been successfully indoctrinated over a period of 30 years by the press and by any kind of critical thinking being discouraged.


'Looks sideways in English' :ooer:

Nah, just around 30% of us.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Cactus Jack » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:03 pm

English people will still vote Tory.

They've been successfully indoctrinated over a period of 30 years by the press and by any kind of critical thinking being discouraged.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by HobbitFeet » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:43 am

now the crisis is drawing to an end, people are no longer accepting the narrative of 'but they are doing their best'

questions will and should be asked, and BJ shoud be able to justify every one of his decisions, if he can't (and we all know he can't) then his time is up

if he thinks it is bad now with his popularity waning, I think he'd be well served thinking about how much worse it can get


The privilege shown by this government, whilst us mere mortals have had to bear the tragedy, is absolutely astounding, people are now out of the madness and are in the reflection stage

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Cactus Jack » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:27 am

Stooo wrote:
drum wrote:Sunak for the chop or demotion soon?

The Sunday Times reports this evening that Boris Johnson threatened to sack his chancellor this week during a meeting with No. 10 aides. After a letter Sunak wrote to the Prime Minister arguing for an easing of travel restrictions made its way into last week's paper, Johnson was left in a rage as to who was behind the leak. In the Monday call, on realising that Sunak was absent, he is alleged to have said:

'I’ve been thinking about it. Maybe it’s time we looked at Rishi as the next secretary of state for health. He could potentially do a very good job there.’

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is- ... shi-sunak-


He's a threat, Johnson's popularity is waning.

so I see

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... e-minister

Boris Johnson’s personal approval rating has slipped to its lowest level since he became prime minister, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

His overall approval rating has fallen to -16, down from the -13 he recorded two weeks ago and -8 a fortnight before that. It is even lower than the -15 he recorded back in January, when Britain was in the grip of a Covid peak, lockdown measures were in place and the NHS was under severe pressure

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Stooo » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:23 am

drum wrote:Sunak for the chop or demotion soon?

The Sunday Times reports this evening that Boris Johnson threatened to sack his chancellor this week during a meeting with No. 10 aides. After a letter Sunak wrote to the Prime Minister arguing for an easing of travel restrictions made its way into last week's paper, Johnson was left in a rage as to who was behind the leak. In the Monday call, on realising that Sunak was absent, he is alleged to have said:

'I’ve been thinking about it. Maybe it’s time we looked at Rishi as the next secretary of state for health. He could potentially do a very good job there.’

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is- ... shi-sunak-


He's a threat, Johnson's popularity is waning.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by drum » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:42 am

Sunak for the chop or demotion soon?

The Sunday Times reports this evening that Boris Johnson threatened to sack his chancellor this week during a meeting with No. 10 aides. After a letter Sunak wrote to the Prime Minister arguing for an easing of travel restrictions made its way into last week's paper, Johnson was left in a rage as to who was behind the leak. In the Monday call, on realising that Sunak was absent, he is alleged to have said:

'I’ve been thinking about it. Maybe it’s time we looked at Rishi as the next secretary of state for health. He could potentially do a very good job there.’

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is- ... shi-sunak-

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Lady Murasaki » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:10 am

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:No idea which thread this is best suited to, just enjoy it :pmsl:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... esignation


:mrgreen: yeah.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Toke 'n' gesture » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:08 am

No idea which thread this is best suited to, just enjoy it :pmsl:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... esignation

Re: Government Corruption

Post by drum » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:20 am

PMQs ... another jokefest, serious issues discussed and Johnson just derides and ridicules. :shake head:

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Cactus Jack » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:24 am

Maddog wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:UK Government corruption.

And here we are. Want to talk about US corruption? Start a thread please.



I was talking about governments in general being corrupt, and there being no reason to expect anything less from UK governments.

If you give an entity a great deal of power it will become corrupt. UK government has a great deal of power and control.

I believe one of those smart British guys that aren't around anymore said something to that affect.

All complex systems with human elements become corrupt and all such systems have a tendancy to, acting through officers and agents, protect themselves. That's what the Trump organisation is finding right now with officers acting for it willing to throw Jared, Ivanka and Don Jnr under the bus. A democracy in which all who are affected by government decisions are enfranchised ameliorates that effect to some extent.


Lord Acton said it better amd more succinctly. I appreciate that in a man.

So you'll appreciate the who said 'Eptomies should be used to stimulate understanding not to simulate understanding' a lot.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Maddog » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:05 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:UK Government corruption.

And here we are. Want to talk about US corruption? Start a thread please.



I was talking about governments in general being corrupt, and there being no reason to expect anything less from UK governments.

If you give an entity a great deal of power it will become corrupt. UK government has a great deal of power and control.

I believe one of those smart British guys that aren't around anymore said something to that affect.

All complex systems with human elements become corrupt and all such systems have a tendancy to, acting through officers and agents, protect themselves. That's what the Trump organisation is finding right now with officers acting for it willing to throw Jared, Ivanka and Don Jnr under the bus. A democracy in which all who are affected by government decisions are enfranchised ameliorates that effect to some extent.


Lord Acton said it better amd more succinctly. I appreciate that in a man.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Cactus Jack » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:51 am

Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:UK Government corruption.

And here we are. Want to talk about US corruption? Start a thread please.



I was talking about governments in general being corrupt, and there being no reason to expect anything less from UK governments.

If you give an entity a great deal of power it will become corrupt. UK government has a great deal of power and control.

I believe one of those smart British guys that aren't around anymore said something to that affect.

All complex systems with human elements become corrupt and all such systems have a tendancy to, acting through officers and agents, protect themselves. That's what the Trump organisation is finding right now with officers acting for it willing to throw Jared, Ivanka and Don Jnr under the bus. A democracy in which all who are affected by government decisions are enfranchised ameliorates that effect to some extent.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Maddog » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:35 pm

Stooo wrote:UK Government corruption.

And here we are. Want to talk about US corruption? Start a thread please.



I was talking about governments in general being corrupt, and there being no reason to expect anything less from UK governments.

If you give an entity a great deal of power it will become corrupt. UK government has a great deal of power and control.

I believe one of those smart British guys that aren't around anymore said something to that affect.

Re: Government Corruption

Post by Stooo » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:05 pm

UK Government corruption.

And here we are. Want to talk about US corruption? Start a thread please.

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