by rollup » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:18 pm
Maddog wrote:3rdLeg wrote:Maddog wrote:calitom wrote:Maddog wrote:Three civilians were killed on Wednesday in Russian air strikes on aid vehicles near Azaz, a border town with Turkey in the northern Aleppo province, activists and a reporter said.
Russia's warplanes carried out two air strikes on an aid warehouse near the Bab al Salameh border crossing with Turkey, killing three people, including two drivers and an aid worker, according to a Zaman al-Wasl reporter.
Russia’s air force intervened in Syria on September 30 in support of embattled President Bashar al-Assad, whose forces are fighting insurgents backed by a number of regional powers including Turkey.
Activists said attacking the Turkish-sponsored aid store was a Russian reprisal over the downing of its warplane on Tuesday.
The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported this week that Russia's airstrikes have killed 403 civilians, including 97 children under the age of 18.
http://syrianobserver.com/EN/News/30206 ... Kill_ThreeOops.
oops? do you think isis etc separate themselves from civilian populations while fighting? come on maddog. you really think war is that precise??
Nope. I don't think ISIS, Al Nusra, Assad, the Turkmen or the FSA really spend too much time worrying about civilian deaths. Now we know the Russians don't either. Oh, and when the Turks bomb the Kurds I don't think they care too much either.
That's why we need to get the hell out of there. Someone will eventually win, after tens of thousands of more civilians die, and that winner will likely suck. And we have to learn to say it's OK that much of the world is run by people that suck, because getting us and civilians killed to swap leaders that suck is a waste of our time and money.
You forgot to add the good Ol USA
So what you are saying is the USA sucks big time because they are getting civilians killed trying to swap leaders in nations across the planet all the time...
I'm saying our foreign policy is a failure in the middle east. All too often government ideas are judged on their intent, not their results. At some point our leaders need to decide what we are doing there is not going to work. It will get better there when people decide they are tired of killing each other. Not when we pick the lesser of two evils and support them killing their enemies.
Quit with the fucking superior race bollox!
Syria was a secular modern society doing just fine till you decided to install chaos ....Libya even more so.
You have no idea how fucking warped and dangerous this exceptional people shite is!
[quote="Maddog"][quote="3rdLeg"][quote="Maddog"][quote="calitom"][quote="Maddog"]Three civilians were killed on Wednesday in Russian air strikes on aid vehicles near Azaz, a border town with Turkey in the northern Aleppo province, activists and a reporter said.
Russia's warplanes carried out two air strikes on an aid warehouse near the Bab al Salameh border crossing with Turkey, killing three people, including two drivers and an aid worker, according to a Zaman al-Wasl reporter.
Russia’s air force intervened in Syria on September 30 in support of embattled President Bashar al-Assad, whose forces are fighting insurgents backed by a number of regional powers including Turkey.
Activists said attacking the Turkish-sponsored aid store was a Russian reprisal over the downing of its warplane on Tuesday.
The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported this week that Russia's airstrikes have killed 403 civilians, including 97 children under the age of 18.
http://syrianobserver.com/EN/News/30206/Russian_Strikes_Aid_Depot_Near_Turkish_Border_Kill_Three
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oops? do you think isis etc separate themselves from civilian populations while fighting? come on maddog. you really think war is that precise??[/quote]
[u][b]Nope. I don't think ISIS, Al Nusra, Assad, the Turkmen or the FSA really spend too much time worrying about civilian deaths. Now we know the Russians don't either. [/b][/u]
Oh, and when the Turks bomb the Kurds I don't think they care too much either.
That's why we need to get the hell out of there. Someone will eventually win, after tens of thousands of more civilians die, and that winner will likely suck. And we have to learn to say it's OK that much of the world is run by people that suck, because getting us and civilians killed to swap leaders that suck is a waste of our time and money.[/quote]
You forgot to add the good Ol USA :thumbsup:
So what you are saying is the USA sucks big time because they are getting civilians killed trying to swap leaders in nations across the planet all the time... :hand:[/quote]
I'm saying our foreign policy is a failure in the middle east. All too often government ideas are judged on their intent, not their results. At some point our leaders need to decide what we are doing there is not going to work. It will get better there when people decide they are tired of killing each other. Not when we pick the lesser of two evils and support them killing their enemies.[/quote]
Quit with the fucking superior race bollox!
Syria was a secular modern society doing just fine till you decided to install chaos ....Libya even more so.
You have no idea how fucking warped and dangerous this exceptional people shite is!