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Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:18 pm

3rdLeg wrote:
Maddog wrote:I'm not going to waste time trying to support your claims. That's your job counselor.

Next you'll have me trying to prove aliens are living in the White house basement.


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Fuck me.... :bell: it's well known... world wide, maybe not in the US so i can understand your ignorance...


Oh. It's well known but you can't answer my question?

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by 3rdLeg » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:54 pm

Maddog wrote:I'm not going to waste time trying to support your claims. That's your job counselor.

Next you'll have me trying to prove aliens are living in the White house basement.


No but i am pretty sure you will tell me... :thumbsup:

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by 3rdLeg » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:51 pm

Maddog wrote:I'm not going to waste time trying to support your claims. That's your job counselor.

Next you'll have me trying to prove aliens are living in the White house basement.


Image


Fuck me.... :bell: it's well known... world wide, maybe not in the US so i can understand your ignorance...

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:02 pm

I'm not going to waste time trying to support your claims. That's your job counselor.

Next you'll have me trying to prove aliens are living in the White house basement.

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by 3rdLeg » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:53 pm

3rdLeg wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:


Yup same reason he shot down the Keystone Pipeline. He also thinks climate change is more of a risk than ISIS.

Obama doesn't think or wage war like brother Putin.


Obama isn't in charge like Putin is.

Obama just does what AIPAC tell him via langley and the MIC.


Is there a special phone?

Who from AIPAC actually makes the call?


Follow the money, the 10 billion or more that can't be accounted for... there you will find who is in charge at the other end of the phone line.. It sure as hell aint Obama... :more beer:


How about you follow the money? I'm not making the claim.[/quote]

No Claim, just fact... billions upon billions unacounted for... you know the money congress has no fucking idea has gone...

Google.. it's all there... :thumbsup:

Who ever signs that check, then that is the person someone needs to call.. :more beer:

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:35 pm

3rdLeg wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:


Yup same reason he shot down the Keystone Pipeline. He also thinks climate change is more of a risk than ISIS.

Obama doesn't think or wage war like brother Putin.


Obama isn't in charge like Putin is.

Obama just does what AIPAC tell him via langley and the MIC.


Is there a special phone?

Who from AIPAC actually makes the call?


Follow the money, the 10 billion or more that can't be accounted for... there you will find who is in charge at the other end of the phone line.. It sure as hell aint Obama... :more beer:


How about you follow the money? I'm not making the claim.

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by 3rdLeg » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:32 pm

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:


Yup same reason he shot down the Keystone Pipeline. He also thinks climate change is more of a risk than ISIS.

Obama doesn't think or wage war like brother Putin.


Obama isn't in charge like Putin is.

Obama just does what AIPAC tell him via langley and the MIC.


Is there a special phone?

Who from AIPAC actually makes the call?


Follow the money, the 10 billion or more that can't be accounted for... there you will find who is in charge at the other end of the phone line.. It sure as hell aint Obama... :more beer:

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:50 pm

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:


Yup same reason he shot down the Keystone Pipeline. He also thinks climate change is more of a risk than ISIS.

Obama doesn't think or wage war like brother Putin.


Obama isn't in charge like Putin is.

Obama just does what AIPAC tell him via langley and the MIC.


Is there a special phone?

Who from AIPAC actually makes the call?

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Guest » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:30 pm

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:


Yup same reason he shot down the Keystone Pipeline. He also thinks climate change is more of a risk than ISIS.

Obama doesn't think or wage war like brother Putin.


Obama isn't in charge like Putin is.

Obama just does what AIPAC tell him via langley and the MIC.

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:22 pm

Guest wrote:Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:


Yup same reason he shot down the Keystone Pipeline. He also thinks climate change is more of a risk than ISIS.

Obama doesn't think or wage war like brother Putin.

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Guest » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:14 pm

Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

This past week, someone finally came up with a "reason" why the Obama administration had been so impotent at denting the Islamic State's well-greased oil machine. In an interview on PBS' Charlie Rose on Tuesday, Rose pointed out that before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the U.S. had not bombed ISIS-controlled oil tankers, to which the former CIA deputy director Michael Morell responded that Barack Obama didn’t order the bombing of ISIS’s oil transportation infrastructure until recently because he was concerned about environmental damage.

Yes, he really said that:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-2 ... d-isis-oil

:pmsl:

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:22 pm

Fine?

Then there would have been no uprisings. Using your definition of fine, East Germany was fine.

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Guest » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:18 pm

Maddog wrote:I'm saying our foreign policy is a failure in the middle east. All too often government ideas are judged on their intent, not their results. At some point our leaders need to decide what we are doing there is not going to work. It will get better there when people decide they are tired of killing each other. Not when we pick the lesser of two evils and support them killing their enemies.


You make the mistake of not considering the result was exactly their intent.

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by rollup » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:18 pm

Maddog wrote:
3rdLeg wrote:
Maddog wrote:
calitom wrote:
Maddog wrote:Three civilians were killed on Wednesday in Russian air strikes on aid vehicles near Azaz, a border town with Turkey in the northern Aleppo province, activists and a reporter said.

Russia's warplanes carried out two air strikes on an aid warehouse near the Bab al Salameh border crossing with Turkey, killing three people, including two drivers and an aid worker, according to a Zaman al-Wasl reporter.

Russia’s air force intervened in Syria on September 30 in support of embattled President Bashar al-Assad, whose forces are fighting insurgents backed by a number of regional powers including Turkey.

Activists said attacking the Turkish-sponsored aid store was a Russian reprisal over the downing of its warplane on Tuesday.

The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported this week that Russia's airstrikes have killed 403 civilians, including 97 children under the age of 18.

http://syrianobserver.com/EN/News/30206 ... Kill_Three

Oops.

oops? do you think isis etc separate themselves from civilian populations while fighting? come on maddog. you really think war is that precise??



Nope. I don't think ISIS, Al Nusra, Assad, the Turkmen or the FSA really spend too much time worrying about civilian deaths. Now we know the Russians don't either.
Oh, and when the Turks bomb the Kurds I don't think they care too much either.

That's why we need to get the hell out of there. Someone will eventually win, after tens of thousands of more civilians die, and that winner will likely suck. And we have to learn to say it's OK that much of the world is run by people that suck, because getting us and civilians killed to swap leaders that suck is a waste of our time and money.


You forgot to add the good Ol USA :thumbsup:

So what you are saying is the USA sucks big time because they are getting civilians killed trying to swap leaders in nations across the planet all the time... :hand:


I'm saying our foreign policy is a failure in the middle east. All too often government ideas are judged on their intent, not their results. At some point our leaders need to decide what we are doing there is not going to work. It will get better there when people decide they are tired of killing each other. Not when we pick the lesser of two evils and support them killing their enemies.

Quit with the fucking superior race bollox!
Syria was a secular modern society doing just fine till you decided to install chaos ....Libya even more so.
You have no idea how fucking warped and dangerous this exceptional people shite is!

Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Border

Post by Maddog » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:36 pm

3rdLeg wrote:
Maddog wrote:
calitom wrote:
Maddog wrote:Three civilians were killed on Wednesday in Russian air strikes on aid vehicles near Azaz, a border town with Turkey in the northern Aleppo province, activists and a reporter said.

Russia's warplanes carried out two air strikes on an aid warehouse near the Bab al Salameh border crossing with Turkey, killing three people, including two drivers and an aid worker, according to a Zaman al-Wasl reporter.

Russia’s air force intervened in Syria on September 30 in support of embattled President Bashar al-Assad, whose forces are fighting insurgents backed by a number of regional powers including Turkey.

Activists said attacking the Turkish-sponsored aid store was a Russian reprisal over the downing of its warplane on Tuesday.

The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported this week that Russia's airstrikes have killed 403 civilians, including 97 children under the age of 18.

http://syrianobserver.com/EN/News/30206 ... Kill_Three

Oops.

oops? do you think isis etc separate themselves from civilian populations while fighting? come on maddog. you really think war is that precise??



Nope. I don't think ISIS, Al Nusra, Assad, the Turkmen or the FSA really spend too much time worrying about civilian deaths. Now we know the Russians don't either.
Oh, and when the Turks bomb the Kurds I don't think they care too much either.

That's why we need to get the hell out of there. Someone will eventually win, after tens of thousands of more civilians die, and that winner will likely suck. And we have to learn to say it's OK that much of the world is run by people that suck, because getting us and civilians killed to swap leaders that suck is a waste of our time and money.


You forgot to add the good Ol USA :thumbsup:

So what you are saying is the USA sucks big time because they are getting civilians killed trying to swap leaders in nations across the planet all the time... :hand:


I'm saying our foreign policy is a failure in the middle east. All too often government ideas are judged on their intent, not their results. At some point our leaders need to decide what we are doing there is not going to work. It will get better there when people decide they are tired of killing each other. Not when we pick the lesser of two evils and support them killing their enemies.

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